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RC45 · 06-30-2005, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

Here is a pic of the Z06, i hope that any hint of disbilief is now gone. I really like corvettes and i even prefer them from many established european sports cars but i am not gonna say anything more because the topic as you allready mentioned is about the M5 and the F430.

Well - a random picture hardly constitutes proof of anything - besides you tried a backhanded jab basing the video game as proof that the M5 is quicker - and as I made the video I am telling you it was staged the way it was for the purposes of a making a video.

As in the Z06 was driven slower/behind to keep both cars as close to "in frame" as possibe.

So - again, you lobbed a brick and I simply side stepped.

bmwdakias · 06-30-2005, 09:18 AM

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game. I was joiking when i said the thing about the bus and the ass and believe me i dont need to show off by telling you bullshit about my brother having a vette. If you need any other proof i would be glad to provide you with it. Aaa and something else, in my family there is also a 1991 ZR-1,1971 stingray convertible and a 1986 C4 convertible. Thats all.Allways glad to give you some pics.

RC45 · 06-30-2005, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game.

I was joiking when i said the thing about the bus and the ass and

In what context would you have been talking then? Unless you just wanyed to trhough some random shit out there.

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

believe me i dont need to show off by telling you bullshit about my brother having a vette. If you need any other proof i would be glad to provide you with it. Aaa and something else, in my family there is also a 1991 ZR-1,1971 stingray convertible and a 1986 C4 convertible. Thats all.Allways glad to give you some pics.

I wouldn't go bragging too much about Vettes in your family - you are likely to get the rest of the forum all riled up about your families redneck ties.

SFDMALEX · 06-30-2005, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game.

Well its not exactly a game, its a mediocre simulator. medicore

but frankly I dont give a shit about that vulgar M5, it can beat the Enzo for all I care, its still an ugly saloon, nothing like the old one.....

RC45 · 06-30-2005, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game.

Well its not exactly a game, its a mediocre simulator. medicore

WHOA!!! You said "simulation" in reference to GT4

SFDMALEX · 06-30-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game.

Well its not exactly a game, its a mediocre simulator. medicore

WHOA!!! You said "simulation" in reference to GT4

Well even NFS can handel straight line driving physics when the correct data is plugged in

bmwdakias · 07-01-2005, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

You have to be joiking, i didn't even watch the video and certainly i would never form an opinion according to a game.

I was joiking when i said the thing about the bus and the ass and

In what context would you have been talking then? Unless you just wanyed to trhough some random shit out there.

Originally Posted by bmwdakias

believe me i dont need to show off by telling you bullshit about my brother having a vette. If you need any other proof i would be glad to provide you with it. Aaa and something else, in my family there is also a 1991 ZR-1,1971 stingray convertible and a 1986 C4 convertible. Thats all.Allways glad to give you some pics.

I wouldn't go bragging too much about Vettes in your family - you are likely to get the rest of the forum all riled up about your families redneck ties.

It is as simple as that, i do believe that the new M5 is a fabulous and technologically advanced car with one of the best engines ever produced. It has one of the fastest sequential gearboxes, it handles, it brakes and it can accomodate 5 passengers offering all the gimmicks and amentities that any person will ever need from a car.So trying to support my opinion on a car like this isn't a hard job, the product sells itself. It is crystal clear, this is the best car in its segment and it can also compete against a Ferrari (a true sports car) which is without doubt very flattering for a 'BUS'. So i dont think i am just throwing shit around, i was just expressing my belief in a colourfull way

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Again what are you talking about? Who is going to get riled up? We are all open minded here

and we just happen to like vettes in contrast with many Europeans. I dont think that i should worry for just saying that i like corvettes. Thank you for the friendly warning though

Again people continue saything things like the M5 is ugly etc. I believe that you should get over that, taste is something subjective so i respect your opinion but you are getting tiring and dull.

RC45 · 07-01-2005, 08:46 AM

A couple thigs - first the car will struggle to keep it's poise in the hands of meere mortals with 5 people on board.

Second - the E60 M5 is an ugly arsed pile.

Just_me · 07-01-2005, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by RC45

Second - the E60 M5 is an ugly arsed pile.

This thread still alive. Well, I disagree

RC45 · 07-01-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Just_me

Originally Posted by RC45

Second - the E60 M5 is an ugly arsed pile.

This thread still alive. Well, I disagree

And that's the energy that keeps the world revolting... I mean revolving..

RC45 · 07-01-2005, 09:26 PM

^^ wasn't the Audi 100/500 Quattro sedan banned from every class of road racing - after they forced them to carry 200kgs+ of ballast....

...becuse the Quattro sedan simply "understeered" it's way to victory against every car even driven...

I hate to side with Big B... but I loved the sound and sight of the 5 cycliner turbo quattro destroying everything in sight

Sir_GT · 07-01-2005, 09:58 PM

RC45: You're talking about a different era of Audi.

Brembo: FYI, I used to drive an A4 Quattro and a BMW 3-series (our family cars) before I got the 120d.

Also, the Audi that took Pikes Peak was no ordinary Audi. That's just like saying the Audi Le Mans team are directly connected with manufacturing the road cars. They're not. They're the racing arm. I have much respect for Audi in the realms of motorsport. I grew up admiring the original rally-killing Quattro (I still possess my old Tamiya Quattro RC from 1980-something).

But... the Audi road cars are something else. They're rebodied VW's. If Audi eventually starts building bespoke chassis (audi only) for their road cars, then I'll be happy to part with my money for one of their cars. But until then, I'll never be convinced that something which is honestly a VW in a suit is worth as much as a purpose-built BMW or Mercedes.

Also, the poser tag-line doesn't hold. There are posers driving Audi's as well (especially A4 cabrio drivers...crikey). And Merc's, and Honda's, and whatever. There will always be posers regardless of the brand of car.

If there's any criticism that I think holds true with BMW's, it's what the Top Gear crew talked about recently: that BMW's are becoming way too common. I agree wholeheartedly. Thing is, the reason why BMW's are so damn plentiful is because everybody knows it's the most logical brand to buy... because they're just better than every other car for the same amount of money.

Just_me · 07-02-2005, 07:48 AM

Brembo you're hilarious

Sir_GT · 07-02-2005, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by brembo

you are correct there are posers driving most good brands, but BMW got the most of them and you are a good example of it your posts on JW about BMW proves that, and you have indirectly admitted it by your "it looks expensive" comments......

I never said that... I said Audi's look expensive but they aren't.

Besides, I don't even know why you keep pointing out how "a lot" of posers own BMW's as if it was an inferiority representative of the car's engineering. It simply isn't. You're merely trying to find mud to sling because there isn't anything else you can say against BMW's.

There's no shame in admitting that you're favorite brand is inferior to it's rival anyway. My personal favorite brand/car company is Maserati, and I would be the first to admit that their engineering is nowhere near BMW's. That's just facts, and there's no denying it.

Just as it is a fact that Audi's are inferior to BMW's. No shame in admitting it.

Honestly, like I said, I have nothing but respect for Audi when it comes to motorsport, but those cars are far too heavily tweaked to be considered remotely close to their road car counterparts.

The A4 DTM is a perfect example... they use the same chassis, but the modifications are so severe that the race driver is sitting where the rear seats should have been, because the engine was moved so far back to improve the balance.

All you've been saying is that if you modify Audi's enough, it can match BMW.

IF

YOU

MODIFY

AN

AUDI

ENOUGH...

THEN

AND ONLY THEN

...can it match a BMW.

So you can mock Bimmer owners's pride of their 50/50 cars, but the fact remains that as far as buying standard (stock... y'know? without having to modify them?) German cars go, the closest you can get to a proper performance car is a BMW.

Zrated · 07-02-2005, 06:34 PM

I think it's a biased test. Considering the F430 can accelerate to 100 in like NOTHING, and has near hp and tq of the heavier M5. Sure put a crpa driver in the ferrari and a good driver and the M5 and my bet would be the F430 can't shake him. i SHOULD win the comparo tho not for performance but practicality with the perfromance it offers and the price u pay for it. but all out carnage= ferrari on twisties. I'm surprised anyway and article liket his make me question the validity of autocar.