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Old 09-14-2003, 02:46 PM   #1
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Default THE ITALIAN GP, Monza - RESULT

1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1h14m19.838s
2 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams BMW + 0m05.294s
3 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari + 0m11.835s
4 Kimi Raikkonen McLaren Mercedes + 0m12.834s
5 Marc Gene Williams BMW + 0m27.891s
6 Jacques Villeneuve BAR Honda + 1 lap
7 Mark Webber Jaguar + 1 lap
8 Fernando Alonso Renault + 1 lap
9 Nick Heidfeld Sauber Petronas + 1 lap
10 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan Ford + 1 lap
11 Zsolt Baumgartner Jordan Ford + 2 laps
12 Nicolas Kiesa Minardi Cosworth + 2 laps
13 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber Petronas + 3 laps
14 David Coulthard McLaren Mercedes + 8 laps
15 Olivier Panis Toyota + 18 laps
16 Jos Verstappen Minardi Cosworth + 26 laps
17 Jenson Button BAR Honda + 29 laps
18 Cristiano Da Matta Toyota + 50 laps
19 Justin Wilson Jaguar + 51 laps
20 Jarno Trulli Renault + 53 laps
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:23 PM   #2
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At last
The only bad thing was that montoya was 2nd.
It will be tight with 3 points difference and two races.
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Old 09-14-2003, 04:19 PM   #3
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Finally a win for Schumi again. I like an axciting championship, but I thought I had a heart attack when they went into the chicane side by side. Good driving from both of them by the way.

How strong are those Renaults anyway? Looks to me Alonso could have taken his car rallying and it wouldn't have broken.

Looking forward to the next two races...
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Old 09-14-2003, 04:48 PM   #4
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The first lap was maybe the best we saw this season! Fierce and clean battle between Schumi and JPM To bad Jarno had to give up so soon!! Very bad day for Renault... and also McLaren didn't shine... while the Williams did good, especially Gene! I wonder what Ralph could have done
And more records for Michael fastest speed ever in F1 and fastest average speed during a GP

And well, the new point system is superb IMO! It was a while ago when we last saw a season still not closed in September
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:03 PM   #5
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I find it amazing that after everthing that happened to him Alonso finished 8th scoring 1 point

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fastest speed ever in F1 and fastest average speed during a GP
He missed the fatest average speed record by 1mph
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:06 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by TT
And more records for Michael fastest speed ever in F1 and fastest average speed during a GP
can you tell me what was the fastest speed? sadly I couldn't watch the race
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:31 PM   #7
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He had a top speed of 368 km/h, and they said it's the record.. I trusted the speaker
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Old 09-14-2003, 05:37 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by TT
He had a top speed of 368 km/h, and they said it's the record.. I trusted the speaker
wohooo 368 km/h!!!! :shock:
I didn't think F1 cars can reach such speeds (they have very high cd), but it sure is nice to know they can.
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Old 09-14-2003, 06:55 PM   #9
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oi.....Schumacher wins again....but still a tight race ahead...I wonder whos going to get the crown? i cheer for Schumi!
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Old 09-14-2003, 08:28 PM   #10
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that was a fantastic 2nd corner battle on the first lap. sadly montoya getting slowed down the backmarkers spoiled what looked to be an exciting race for us fans. was surprised to see the mclarens so close on the first stint, but kinda went back to reality after the first pits. pity for renaults. and a good job by gene after 3 years out from a f1 race.

with the US GP 2 weeks away, will the michelins shine again in a high downforce race which so far seem to favour their tires unlike the low downforce nature of the monza circuit. cant wait for that race. hopefully we will see williams with mclaren and renault battling it out front with the tifossi.
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Old 09-14-2003, 10:35 PM   #11
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And well, the new point system is superb IMO! It was a while ago when we last saw a season still not closed in September
Really TT? I think its not fair for a winner only to open up a 2 points lead from the second place.

Think about it, Shumi won so many race's and he only got this tiny lead, montoya won only 2 race's and he's only 3 points behind?

Thats 5 wins Vs 2 wins and only 3 points seperating the two. I dont think thats fair, even the David Hobs said that the point system is not good. Putting aside their other finishing positions but 5 wins is hell lot of wins.

Yes it makes the season exciting but put your self in Shumi's shoes, you are trying your hardest you win 5 races, and all you get is a lousy 3 point lead.
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Old 09-14-2003, 11:39 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by alondahan
Originally Posted by TT
He had a top speed of 368 km/h, and they said it's the record.. I trusted the speaker
wohooo 368 km/h!!!! :shock:
I didn't think F1 cars can reach such speeds (they have very high cd), but it sure is nice to know they can.
368 was inevitable...this speed will continue to climb until fia thinks of something stupid again. plus the ferrari is uber slippery.

so what is their cd then smarty pants?
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Old 09-14-2003, 11:40 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Thats 5 wins Vs 2 wins and only 3 points seperating the two. I dont think thats fair, even the David Hobs said that the point system is not good. Putting aside their other finishing positions but 5 wins is hell lot of wins.
yea but schumi fucked up in the last 4 races while montoya played major catch up
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Old 09-15-2003, 04:12 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX

Really TT? I think its not fair for a winner only to open up a 2 points lead from the second place.

Think about it, Shumi won so many race's and he only got this tiny lead, montoya won only 2 race's and he's only 3 points behind?
Totally agree. 2 points between 1st and 2nd. Same difference as between 2nd and 3rd. Thats unfair. I think it would be better for them to make 10 for first, 7 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd and then 5 4 3 2 1.
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Old 09-15-2003, 04:56 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Originally Posted by TT
And well, the new point system is superb IMO! It was a while ago when we last saw a season still not closed in September
Really TT? I think its not fair for a winner only to open up a 2 points lead from the second place.

Think about it, Shumi won so many race's and he only got this tiny lead, montoya won only 2 race's and he's only 3 points behind?

Thats 5 wins Vs 2 wins and only 3 points seperating the two. I dont think thats fair, even the David Hobs said that the point system is not good. Putting aside their other finishing positions but 5 wins is hell lot of wins.

Yes it makes the season exciting but put your self in Shumi's shoes, you are trying your hardest you win 5 races, and all you get is a lousy 3 point lead.
Yeh, I see your point, but IMO yes, it's better: Schumi won 5 races ok, but he sucked in some others I prefer to see a consistent driver rewarded and if these new points were used last season when he won a lot and was very consistent, he would have had a big lead anyway... this year he simply had some high and some low moments, and it's true that Kimi or Montoya or even Ralph are rewarded and still in touch..
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