Senna its the Best pilot ever

[a007apl]

Senna Donington Park 1993 :
http://rapidshare.de/files/815554/GP...placa.wmv.html
Who made one lap equal Senna?

[stracing]

no one has.
the closest i remember was Schumacher vs Hill in 1995 at Spa

[yg60m]

One of the best lap I ever see !! It gives gooseflesh

[sameerrao]

This is easily one of the best first laps of all time from a dramatic perspective.

But F1 journos like Alan Henry and others rate Senna's best wet weather performance to be Estoril 1985 in a Lotus. No traction control then.

The 1993 car was very sophisticated with active ride, traction control and other driver aids. Also it was perfectly set up for the wet. Even so, Senna's mastery is plain to see.

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by sameerrao This is easily one of the best first laps of all time from a dramatic perspective. But F1 journos like Alan Henry and others rate Senna's best wet weather performance to be Estoril 1985 in a Lotus. No traction control then. The 1993 car was very sophisticated with active ride, traction control and other driver aids. Also it was perfectly set up for the wet. Even so, Senna's mastery is plain to see.

lest we forget about another master of racing at that time in F1, Stefan Bellof... he proved his wet weather driving was perhaps even better then Senna's when they raced each other.

[SFDMALEX]

Senna sucks.

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by sameerrao This is easily one of the best first laps of all time from a dramatic perspective. But F1 journos like Alan Henry and others rate Senna's best wet weather performance to be Estoril 1985 in a Lotus. No traction control then. The 1993 car was very sophisticated with active ride, traction control and other driver aids. Also it was perfectly set up for the wet. Even so, Senna's mastery is plain to see.

or his first monaco race, where he would have won if prost didn't beg for the race to be cut short do to rain.

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Senna sucks.

where is that ban button...

[yg60m]

Originally Posted by Toronto or his first monaco race, where he would have won if prost didn't beg for the race to be cut short do to rain.

Not sure, Stefan Bellof was winning time on Senna when race was stopped, he could have been a great champion from what I read but died in a race at Spa ...

[nthfinity]

Originally Posted by yg60m Originally Posted by Toronto or his first monaco race, where he would have won if prost didn't beg for the race to be cut short do to rain. Not sure, Stefan Bellof was winning time on Senna when race was stopped, he could have been a great champion from what I read but died in a race at Spa ...

i posted some 'little known' info here... a few posts down
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33617

[taygunho]

I think Senna is the best race driver ever. If he hadn't died he would dominate all champioships he raced. Schumi is a talented driver (I am a fan of him) but he is not best ever.

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

IMO, Ayrton Senna has been the most talented Formula 1 driver ever, as KKK has been for the rallying alongside Henry Toivonen; however, just to have some talent or potential is not enough to be the best driver ever; for instance, I dont think that he would have been capable of getting the ferrari F1 team as a world champion as MS did; on the other hand, I dont see Ayrton Senna being a World champion candidate if he was 38

Finally, the brazilians season before his dead was a bit bizarre since by Imola he didnt get any point considering that his car and team was theoretically the best

[kksh]

Best first lap ever by far!!!

I see alot of skeptics here. For the first races of the 94 season, the Williams Renault was not the best. They were like McLaren in 05.

True, he made a mistake in Brazil. Although the V8's the MS was running had an advantage because of the high altitude.

And he got bumped out of Aida by Hakkinen and Larini.

Schumacher is good. Better than most but not up to Senna's standards. Who else can beat one of the best drivers ever by over a sec a lap?

Schumacher's team building, work ethics are laudable but skill alone, no one beats Senna.

The greatest driver ever!

[SDK2003]

If you consider that in 1994 Damon Hill was only 1 point away from Schumacher and the championship then had Senna not tragically died he would have certainly have won that year.

I remember the Donnington Race like it was yesterday.

The post race press conference was funny. Prost was using a million excuses as to why he pitted 11 times and was lapped by Senna.
Senna dropped a comment in "maybe would swap cars" – classic

[sameerrao]

The best ever is a subjective question that reflects more on which drivers you have witnessed in person, TV or read about. No one has mentioned Jim Clark here, or Tazio Nuvolari or many other phenoms. That's because we weren't even born when they performed their magic. So your opinion on the best might change based on what you experience as you grow older.

In my OPINION the best 5 of all time are:
1. Tazio Nuvolari
2. J M Fangio
2. Ayrton Senna
2. Michael Schumacher
2. Rudi Caracciola

I place TN a clear first and the rest an equal second because they are/were all brilliantly fast, supremely gifted, had magic races where they beat a driver in a better car/ or better strategy. And importantly they won at the tracks where driving talent shines - Spa, Nurburgring (old), Suzuka, Monaco, Targa Florio, et al.

[nthfinity]

sorry, but Nuvolari has nothing on what Bellof was able to pull from his hat.... given the same cars, its hard to say if Fangio or Bellof would win in a season IMO