Ferrari to build new 'Dino' ...

[bmagni]

there are sooo many rumours now.
I guess entry level won't be 911ized, thats why they have denied a new "Dino", itll be more like in the middle-high 100's. Or a new Maserati...

[dons5]

Well I was always wondering why the new Grand Turismo barely has anymore power then the Maserati Coupe/Coupe Gransport. The Grand Turismo seems bigger, softer and heavier. But now it makes sense, the grand turismo isnt a direct replacement for the Coupe/Gransport. Instead they decide to make the Grandturismo (the softer 2+2 maserati gt car, still sporty aka not a sedan Quattroporte) BUT they will also be making a coupe more like the gransport which could be 2+2 or just 2 seater like the spyder was, and that will be the ghibli.

[blue8]

Spy video

Ferrari Dino Spied - YouTube

Ferrari Dino Spied - YouTube

[acmarttin]

^^^
Very interesting everso, thanks for the link.

[bmagni]

Sounds like an option, still they still say the Dino is still coming...

[dons5]

I've read that Luca Di Montezemolo has said that his idea of an entry level "Ferrari was a second hand one!!!"

best line ever

[dons5]

Maybe that shortened 599 test mule is a new maserati? The Maserati Ghibli, since the Granturismo only has 5 more hp then a Gransport and is no light weight. So I think they're making another Maserati model, which is gonna be more gransport like and less granturismo like.

[blue8]

Still more speculation (it won't just die down...)
Autocar:

Ferrari is set to unveil a surprise new car early in 2008 – but it will not be the long-rumoured ‘new Dino’. According to sources at the company, the new model will be a front-engined coupe with a rear-mounted transaxle gearbox, a two-plus-two cabin layout, a new 450bhp direct injection V8 engine, and a price tag of just over £130,000; in other words, it’ll be a direct rival for the Aston Martin DB9 and Bentley Continental GT, and you can get an idea of what it could look like in our gallery. The Italian DB9 in detail Some sources say the new Ferrari – likely codename F149 – will be unveiled at the Detroit motor show in early January, and may get the iconic ‘California’ name tag when it arrives in the showroom. However, there’s no clear indication on how far away the car is from production. A 4.3-litre V8 engine will power the new car, which some sources think will be an updated version of the unit found in the current, mid-engined F430 coupe. It’s likely to be fitted with direct fuel injection and be good for around 450bhp; slightly less than the F430 two-seater, which suggests that the new car will have a more relaxed, GT-like character. It’ll also be a more usable prospect than the F430; the occasional rear seats should provide enough room for children and smaller adults, while a generous boot out back will swallow much more baggage than an F430. The firm’s F1 sequential paddleshift transmission is tipped to be fitted to the car as standard. Scooped: an early prototype Hard details about Ferrari’s new coupe are very sketchy even though it is said to be close to being made public. However, spy shots have been snatched in Germany of a front-engine coupe wearing fake ‘F599’ cladding (see gallery). Close examination of the pictures show a car that is notably smaller than an F599, with a rather smaller nose section and a narrower front track. Although the central section of the new car looks to be similar to that of the F599, both the front and rear sections look to have been re-worked and re-sized. One source suggests that ‘F149’ will actually be built around an updated, more rigid, aluminium spaceframe chassis engineered by Ferrari and Alcoa. This could indicate that the prototype caught by Autocar’s spies is actually a very early engineering mule using a new nose section carrying the new-generation direct-injection V8 engine. If so, the new F149 will be noticeably slimmer hipped than the 599. A change in model philosophy This unexpected move into a new market segment by the Italians is based on sound logic. One insider suggests the line of thinking is that Ferrari has a gaping hole in its line up which would be neatly filled by a lower-priced front-engined GT car. Both Ferrari’s existing GT cars – the 599 GTB Fiorano and 612 Scaglietti - are big bruisers powered by large V12 engines. They’re also priced at the top-end of the market, from £172k and £176k. Sources have suggested that potential Ferrari buyers are looking for a softer two-plus-two GT that’s an everyday driver, pitched at about the same price as the £130,000 F430. Ferrari sees its iconic brand as strong enough to carry off the smaller GT at a higher price point than cars similar in concept, but cheaper, like the Aston Martin DB9, Bentley Continental GT and Porsche 911 Turbo. All these models are relatively new to the market, and are selling strongly largely because they are practical everyday supercars more useable, and possibly less intimidating, than the mid-engined F430, the traditional entry point for Ferrari ownership. Ferrari particularly has to take heed of the runaway success of Aston Martin. The British car-maker is already selling more cars each year than Ferrari, and the Rapide four-door, due on sale in late 2009, will further widen the sales gap if Maranello doesn’t act soon. Those close to the company suggest that this new V8 GT model is the first part of a restructuring programme that will see the firm dumping its four-seater V12 model, currently the 612, and replacing its mid-engined V8 model with a more expensive, but no less economical mid-engined V10. But whatever Ferrari’s long term plan, with the global economy looking set to cool markedly over the next couple of years, it would also do well to rely less on its high-end models. There is currently an 18-month waiting list for the 599; in five years time, there may not be such demand for V12-engined exotica. In any case, shaving weight back, making its cars smaller and using a smaller displacement engine are the basic principles behind Ferrari’s new engineering direction, which was revealed at its 60th anniversary celebrations earlier this summer. The company has promised that the average CO2 output of its cars will be just 250g/km by 2015.

[bmagni]

Originally Posted by everso no problem dani! JUST TODAY, i have confirmed that there are NO plans for any Dino to go into production. Inside the industry, there have been conflicting reports of a Dino resurrection, however i can say that MOST of these rumours have erroneously called the upcoming "430 California" as the "new Dino". As for a smaller, cheaper Ferrari, i've been told that the supplier lists for Ferrari contain NO upcoming (in the next 2 or 3 years) current production model that fit the idea of a "budget" Ferrari/Dino sorry fellas

people just won't stop, its like the article you posted... they keep saying the Dino is coming... but oh well, its been denied a thousand times and journalists keep undenying it

[admcewen]

I've heard it will be for a front engined V8 called F430GT "California" selling for around the same price of todays F430 ready for the F430's replacement which is meant to be a more extreme machine.

[fsandys]

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...id=1079&page=1

They make me laugh ... soooo sure

I hope not :roll:

[blue8]

Ferrari recently trademarked the term "Ferrari GT California," according to a December 2006 filing with a government agency in the United States. The filing, originally discovered by WorldCarFans reader "Jordoweasel", covers all use of the term pertaining to vehicles, as well as toys, models, games, and video games. A copy of the search result can be seen in the photo gallery at right. Ferrari has yet to respond to two requests from WorldCarFans for an interview. According to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, Ferrari S.p.A. in Modena, Italy, applied for the trademark. The lack of response gives cause for speculation. First, Ferrari has repeatedly denied rumors of a brand new Ferrari Dino in the works. Although we have brought you spy photos of a Ferrari test mule using the body of the 599, and one using the body of a Maserati Granturismo, nobody is talking at Ferrari. What we have been referring to as a potential new Dino might actually be a GT California. This rumor does have some legs, as other sources are reporting on Ferrari's alleged development of a 2+2 car with a 4.3L V8 under the hood (not in the rear). This car is speculated for early next year, perhaps at the Detroit show in January. German publication AutoZeitung had also been claiming a new Ferrari concept would be unveiled in Frankfurt, which never happened. This could also be a potential GT California. Italiaspeed has also reported on a Ferrari 2+2 cabriolet, possibly called the 430 GT California, to debut at the Detroit Motor Show. The car will supposedly have a folding hard-top. Reportedly using the same F1 gearbox as the F430 Scuderia, with optional manual transmission, this car could be a likely candidate for the trademark filed by the company. Italiaspeed seems to think this car would be priced around €130,000 ($185,000). That would put the car in competition with the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. Two other possible uses for the trademark include either something being developed for production that has not been spied or leaked, or it represents a model name that Ferrari may end up scrapping, or never using to begin with. One patent attorney in Chicago thinks the latter is unlikely, as any trademark filing with the USPTO must be done with the intention of using the mark. The filing, which cost Ferrari $350 (significantly less than a set of ceramic brakes on the F430, as Jordoweasel points out), will likely win Ferrari more publicity, and spark yet another guessing game. Either way, take a look at the filing, get creative, and let us know what you think by posting a comment.

[Tommaso]

Hi guys


I think this image is interesting...........

[Svensson]

^ That's an 8C Competizione with an Aston Martin DBS/599GTB front.

[chest3r]

^^ Yeah, I think it's something like that. But at least it looks good .

If you're gonna make a photoshop at least make it look good