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TT · 11-11-2005, 02:55 PM

Yep, that one and the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM are the ones I am interested in. but the DO one costs something like twice the other one, and begin to be lot of money, so not for now I guess

sentra_dude · 11-11-2005, 03:06 PM

The detail on those birds is just amazing.

TT, what is the highest resolution you can shoot with, and what size pictures does that give you?

Wutputt · 11-11-2005, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by TT

I am about to complete my testing, then this topic can die and I will go back at shooting cars..

or maybe birds?

So swisscarsightings.com will die and replaced with swissbirdsightings.com

?

Well congrats with your new camera. And I'm you're progressing with the testing.

SDK2003 · 11-11-2005, 07:56 PM

Congrats on the 350D purchase TT

Switching from a Point & Shoot to D-SLR will take time to adjust but you'll get there.

I'll look forward to seeing your future car pics

TT · 11-11-2005, 08:21 PM

swissbirdsightings LOL! Good idea!

SDK, I wouldn't call the Pro 1 a point-and-shoot camera! Yes it's still an amateur camera, but closer to an SLR than to an IXUS IMO. I never used the automated modes but always worked in the "creative" ones. As far as settings go, the Pro 1 and the 350D are very similar.
Of course the 350 waits more, the telelense is long and I indeed need to adjust to it.

For sure I am learning again despite the similarities and it's so stressing to be in town and know I could see a supercar passing by and end up with a fucked up pic

Today I got a couple of cars, I think the pictures are ok:

dark day, late at afternoon, ence ISO 200 to have decent speed, F blocked at 4.5 to help

Around 135mm

One of the best shots, 100mm. Focused on a fixed point and not used the constant focusing

And 90mm, easy

This was the only pic I could take at 90mm with the filter.. then the sun went away.

I only need to test indepth the 18-55 in town with filter

And since the first night testing pissed me off, I tried some more:

45mm ISO 200 F6.0

55mm ISO 200 F7.0

90mm ISO100 F4.5

135mm ISO 100 F6.0

These shots are ok, but I got MANY blurry ones. The 300mm lense sure has focusing troubles at night at least. And while on the LCD the result seems ok, it isn't once in the PC. From 200mm on, it seems to focus proprely but doesn't in fact.
Please don't tell me I need to learn how to focus. After some thousands car pics in the last couple of years I think I know how to do it. I tried both the automated method to let the camera pic one or more of the 7 focusing points and also blocked it on the center one.. no reall change, still sometimes good, sometimes bad focusing, and maybe it's just me beeing blind, but can't judge the result from the LCD as I could on the Pro 1 :bah:

More testing needed, I will crack the bastard, but I guess it's not just me.
Tomorrow I will try on the tripod at 200 to 300mm to see if it can focus better with daylight

TT · 11-12-2005, 04:59 AM

Ok, here we are, the first "in depth" photoshoot with the EOS is planned for tomorrow! We are not talking about an Enzo, but "just" a slightly modified 3200GT.. still, big stress on me, don't want to mess up!

I am tempted to take the Pro 1 with me as a lifesaver, but I guess it would be too easy like that

MartijnGizmo · 11-12-2005, 06:40 AM

Maybe your 70-300 has some focus-issues? You could test it using a focus-chart..... Have a look at this for example: http://md.co.za/d70/chart.html

Oh, and I would for sure bring the Pro1 along, or use the P-setting on the 350D. Always better than coming home with messed up pics.

Good luck!

TT · 11-12-2005, 06:59 AM

Yep, of course when I want to go the easy way it is the P setting (I doubt I will ever test one of the preset ones.. never did on the Pro 1 anyway

)

SDK2003 · 11-12-2005, 09:37 AM

Those BMW photos look fine to me with regards to focus.
Don't be afraid to go up to ISO1600 if required, this is where D-SLR's really excel over P&S cams.

I'm sure you know already but you need to match shutter speed with focal length to reduce blur from camera shake.
If I'm taking photos of stationery cars in the dark, without a tripod or IS then I would be using Tv mode and setting the shutter speed to the focal length.

During the day I use Av mode, with a wide aperture (F2.8 ) and long focal length to make the photo 'pop'

For Example
100mm F2.8

70mm F2.8

TT · 11-12-2005, 04:28 PM

Yup I know, but my telelense is a F4.5, so I can't go wider than this

IMO ISO 1600 is too grainy, although Neat Image can help.

Today I did some testing at ISO400 and even on a bad cloudy day, it's enough (no filter though)
(my dad visiting in a rented Merc :bah: )

For sure panning shots are much easier to take with so much zoom and such rapid focusing, shooting

mindgam3 · 11-12-2005, 05:29 PM

Focussing depends very heavily on the lens... does the 18-55 have any problems focussing?

What kind of shutter speeds are you using with the 70-300mm? If its anywhere over 1/100 then your prone to camera shake which could be causing the out of focus look. Anywhere over 200mm really exaggerates camera shake so I would bet this is the problem.

If you don't think its this then i'd get the lens looked at. If its happening with the 18-55 then id get the camera looked at

TT · 11-12-2005, 05:37 PM

No major problems indeed with daylight with both the 18-55 and 300mm. Of course I try to be well above 1/100 when going higher than 135mm. What is weird is that even on a tripod and with the 10 seconds timer, the pictures came out blurry at night. Probably I would need to try a couple of times to have the camera focusing in the correct place, but sadly not easy to judge in the viewfinder sometimes

those gulls were shot at 235mm and 1/640 quite sharp
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gull27vq.jpg

problem is at night, I forgot to test with daylight on a tripod at 300mm today dang

MIHALS · 11-12-2005, 06:54 PM

TT, could you give me a favor? can you upload some picture of a STANDING car in the nice sunny day re-sized to 2560x1920 and about 900k big? just would like to compare it

(I know it's heaven and hell, but still... :bah: ) THANK YOU!!! want to compare with this...

TT · 11-12-2005, 07:03 PM

Dude, since I don't keep my originals, I guess it would be easier for you to save a pic of yours to 1600x1200 and around 300 / 400kb

and compare it to one picked on my website. or do you want to compare with the 350? In this case, wait for tomorrow when I'll come back from the 3200GT photoshoot

No.1 · 11-12-2005, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by MIHALS

TT, could you give me a favor? can you upload some picture of a STANDING car in the nice sunny day re-sized to 2560x1920 and about 900k big? just would like to compare it

(I know it's heaven and hell, but still... :bah: ) THANK YOU!!! want to compare with this...

LOL.... don't know what the weather is like over in Switzerland, but over here its gonna be a long time before we get a sunny day in the UK Mihals :bah: