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Old 08-21-2005, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default 1st magazine test of Bagatti Veyron

I did a search, and I couldn't find this on JW... so I decided to add it myself

Anyway, all credits go to ajzahn on supercars.net

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A short summary:

The man instrument with a range from 0 to 1001 shows the actual power available at the wheels. "It takes only 270 bhp to achieve a speed of 250 km/h," says technilcal director Wolfgang Schreiber, one of 3 people who have taken the 16/4 Veyron to its limits so far.

"The Veyron exceeds all expectations" added the engineer. The engine produces 3000 hp but it takes 1000 hp to cool it, another 1000 hp get lost by heat and gas emissions and the remaining 1001 bhp are available at the wheels.

1250 Nm from 2200 rpm, even in 3rd gear all 4 wheels would spin in the wet if the ESP would be switched off. "It is forgiving and easy to handle but deserves a lot of respect."

The arodyminc set-up, the relatiosnhsip between drag coeffiecient and downforce has to be changed completely to achieve a top speed of +400 km/h, the drag coefficent comes to Cw=0.36 and it produces nearly no downforce in front and just 40 kgs in rear.

In handling mode up to 375 km/h the wings and diffusors produce a downforce of 150 kgs in front and 200 kgs in rear. As the Mercedes SLR, the Veyron also comes with an air brake as the rear wng flips up vertically producing 300kgs of downforce at the rear and so an decellartion of 0.6g to come to halt.

The Veyron has 4 water coolers, 2 intercoolers for the turbos and two larger ones for the engine coolant. The ideal temperature to reach the top speed of 400 km/h is between 18 and 28 degrees Celsius. In city traffic, the rear wings flips up into cool-down position and the 16/4 Veyron is surrounded by clouds of heat, gas, dust and smell. The air is flickering as if the Veyron is a Fata Morgana.

The Veyron covers the whole range form 40 to 400 km/h comfortably, all parameters of the suspension can be adjusted, the groudn clearance ranges from 115 to 35 mms.

The Veyron is fitted with Michelin PAX-tyres in the dimesion of 265/35 R 20 in front and 365/25 R 21 in rear.

A 1-million Euro Playstation!
Why? It always feels like driving in a virtual universe.

The kerb weight: 1950 kgs !!!
0-100 km/h in 2.5 secs.* (like Valentino Rossi?s Yamaha!)
0-200 km/h in 7.3 secs.* (like Micheal Schumacher?s F2005)
0-300 km/h in 16.7 secs.* (like starship USS Enterprise)
*mfr.

transmisison: 7-speed DSG with paddles

fuel consumption:
av. 20 liters per 100 km
100 liters per 100 km at top speed!
max range = 100 km at top speed, a new record!

"300 km/h is nothing for the Veyron, there still is enough power to achieve 380 km/h easily. But it takes 55 secs. to accelerate from 380 to 405 km/h."

Vmax = 111 meter per second!,
the engines revs 6000 rpm in 7th gear,
tyre pressure raises from 3.0 to 3.5 bar in within 15 secs.
it would take another 8 bhp just to achieve 1 km/h more.

Review:
"In the beginning there was chaos. The fuel amount made available by the fuel pumps was just enough to achieve 650 bhp, we had to develop complete new fuel pumps and modern knock sensor technology. There were problems with the drive shafts losing the grease."

How many cars are sold?
the figures vary from 30 to 40 units, means that another 10 still will be available for 2006. No potential customers so far had the chance to test drive the car.

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OMG :shock: :shock:

EDIT: Damn, the scans didn't work... I'll try to fix it 2morrow... its too late now
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:45 PM   #2
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wow sounds crazy
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:58 PM   #3
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What an absolutely brutal machine! I cannot get over the fact that over 60% of the engine power is lost between it and the wheels... 2000 hp just 'gone' :shock:
Regardless - Bugatti have achieved their goal with this car.. I just wonder how it will handle?
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Old 08-21-2005, 09:09 PM   #4
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I have deep routed suspicions that this car will be an utter white elephant. Its just too much engineering.

I wonder how much easier it would have been to achieve the stated goals if they hadn't been trying to work to the concept design they'd shown everyone. Trying to cool 4 turbos in the back etc really does seem to be causing a lot of trouble.

To me its all just too brute force. Its not an elegant design and I can't see how it will be reliable.
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Old 08-21-2005, 09:21 PM   #5
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this will never be a good ports car for real life roads i think...its just there for the numbers...it would be kinda cool to show up at the pub and to be able to say you've got a car with a 3000hp engine parked up front and 0-300kph in 16.7 secs...that's 3 secs longer than it takes my dad's car to reach 100 lol...insanely fast. and the top speed of 400 kph or, as was already said in the text, 111meters per second. Just count 1 second and then think that this car has covered more than the length of a football field in that time :roll:
nope it'll never be my favourite car but i wouldnt mind having it for an afternoon to play with 8)
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:24 PM   #6
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Hmm, interesting, that power loss seems imense, I wonder how it compares to other 1000hp turbo-charged cars...I've never heard of those needing anywhere near 1000hp to cool them.

I still doubt those accleration figures, but at least they have made them at bit more realistic compared to the original '0-300km/h in 13sec' claim.

It may be a great engineering feat, but I just don't see it as being a great car with 1950kg of heft to haul around corners. Just think how fast this car could be if they used all that fancy tech on a car that weighed 1200kg. 8)
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:35 PM   #7
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absolutely ridiculous. but if they ever run another cannonball race, this will be the one to run it in!
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:03 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by nejcdolinsek
0-300 km/h in 16.7 secs.* (like starship USS Enterprise)
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anyways... here are some scans from autobild



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And where is the test - which means an actual journalis getting the car and driving it around for a few hudred kilometres - then measuring preformance and rating the car?
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i would rather buy a 1000hp svs viper and then spend the rst of the $ on something else
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Thanks for the scans
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:27 AM   #12
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2 things I noticed:

- it can only do 400km/h with all aerodynamic aids turned off, so it should be a damn straight road.
- the hp-claim sucks. My friends Renault Clio diesel makes 246hp! 82 for cooling, 82 for emissions and 82 to drive the car. :roll:

And about the 0-300 time: check out these videos from an RH9-test: http://www.exvitermini.com/mrh9.htm
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:16 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by jakaracman
And where is the test - which means an actual journalis getting the car and driving it around for a few hudred kilometres - then measuring preformance and rating the car?
Actually, I think the acceleration times were timed by Bugatti test drivers, and not journalists...
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That's some crazy numbers. The Ferrari Enzo takes 26.1 seconds to reach 300 which is incredibly fast. The Veyron seems more like a dragster than a supercar!
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:02 AM   #15
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Thanks for the scans vexor.

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Vmax = 111 meter per second!
:shock: I know we've been talking about the Veyron's top speed many times... but I've never seen the speed in meters per second... 111 meters every second is just impressive!

Thanks for the scans dude!
That's almost 1/3rd the speed of sound...343m/s.
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