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Old 07-25-2005, 06:48 PM   #16
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An F4i is just that, a CBR600F(4I), the RR is the sportier model of what was once a sportsbike in it's day (and the original 600F was more than the limits I'd ever reach riding in terms of its ability). This goes for most of todays bikes. You'll get your knee down on my DR650 with the right rider and tires on it...

I remember the ZZR600, or what we here stateside know as the ZX-6E, being the best 600 SPORTbike! This was in 1990 of course. I'm thinking of changing to a sportbike myself and am considering one of these just on pure cost Ok I'd love an 05 636 or an earlier R1.

As for your size, sure it has a little to do with things but it's more about technique -especially throttle control.

To some extent, a 600 is a 600 - it'll be a quick bike whatever you pick (assuming 4 cylinders now) If you are going to ask will you be safe on an F4 but not on an RR, I think you can pretty much guess that the extra 15 or so HP of the RR won't get you into any more trouble than the 100 or so of the F4 will in the first place!

People have started out on R1's and survived, but it doesn't mean its a good idea
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:37 PM   #17
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does size matter? it all depends on what you plan on doing with your sportbike. If you want to go race down the freeway and see who can go 100+ mph in a straight line the longest and fastest, than by all means you will want a literbike. If you want to dragrace, youll want something bigger than a liter bike... if you want to be able to turn and go fast, then you will want something smaller than a liter bike. As for body size... I am 6' 240lbs, and you can see how I can handle my CBR 600 F1! ...yes thats an F1... as in 80s... and yes I can destroy alot of ppl on their brand new 05 600rr... even when they weigh 130wet... its all technique.. and who has the bigger balls.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:48 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by corpse_grinder0
its all technique.. and who has the bigger balls.
Just remember, there are old pilots, and bold pilots - but there are no old bold pilots

Unless you count the ones that retired as farmers.. after they bought the farm - that is
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:02 PM   #19
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I bet your dad taught you that expression about the pilots!

It is very true though.
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:01 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by TransAm2001
I bet your dad taught you that expression about the pilots!

It is very true though.
Yessiree - that's correct. You don't rack up 10,000 and who knows how many hours in a variety of airframes, be check ride certified on just about anything that doesn't carry bombs or guns and consult on many things aviation related without having proven to be a safe and reliable aviator

My old man has been known to leave startled passangers on the side of an airstrip in Armpit Africa because they wouldn't comply with take off weight requirements

You be surprised how quick people ditch the extra crap when they are faced with the prospect of being house guests to the Hutus or Tootsies if they get left behind
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:45 PM   #21
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I'm kind of in the same position as the starter of this thread.

I have absolutely no bike experience at all. However, I have recently become infatuated with the hayabusa. I've been hunting people down that own them and reading all about it. Everything about this bike makes me want it. I really don't want any other bike.

But I know I am going to need several years of riding under my belt before I can make the leap to my dream bike.

So I need to find a good bike to learn on right now. I've been looking at some GSXR's I think they are 600cc. I know that still sounds like alot, but would it be managable for a beginning rider?

Either way give me some good options to look into.
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Old 10-09-2005, 10:03 PM   #22
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1st - go to rider school
2nd - check on insurance for 600's, it doesn't matter what brand or type of bike.
3rd - get a bike that you don't mind dropping, so nothing to fancy.
4th - my list of starter bikes, SV650, Katana 600 (can handle any drop, i know!!), 99 GSXR-600, Honda 600 Camel Edition(great bike but not too expensive).
5th - Busa is boring next to the liter bikes that can go just as pointlessly fast but actually turn and the Busa is for riders that want the women and never break 60mph.
6th - A 600 can keep up with a Busa up to about 120-130, so who really needs it?
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:36 PM   #23
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i scare myself on my mountain bike riding on the road.
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:41 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by goodduck
im not a bike expert by any means. but im pretty sure that a gixxer is not the best starter bike. maybe a little too much power. i could be wrong tho.
Believe me, you're not wrong!

Originally Posted by gobs3z
6th - A 600 can keep up with a Busa up to about 120-130, so who really needs it?
Which 600 is this and where can you buy one?
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Old 10-09-2005, 11:46 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Banchi105
I'm kind of in the same position as the starter of this thread.

I have absolutely no bike experience at all. However, I have recently become infatuated with the hayabusa. I've been hunting people down that own them and reading all about it. Everything about this bike makes me want it. I really don't want any other bike.

But I know I am going to need several years of riding under my belt before I can make the leap to my dream bike.

So I need to find a good bike to learn on right now. I've been looking at some GSXR's I think they are 600cc. I know that still sounds like alot, but would it be managable for a beginning rider?

Either way give me some good options to look into.
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Yes, it is a lot for a first time rider.

Ninja 500 (GPZ500S in Europe) is going to be more than fast enough for you.

Other options - Suzuki GS500, or any older 600 (1995 or older, the new ones are too skittish for a newb IMHO, and certainly too fast)
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Old 10-10-2005, 11:12 PM   #26
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Well i'll put it this way. I rode an 04 GSXR-600 (sadly not mine ofcourse) with some other people and two of them had busa's and at 2 am ride some people like to speed. I was able to keep up with the liter bikes and busa's up to about 130mph but after that the power difference really shows. I've talked to Busa riders that would tell me that with an all out straight line race it was like they would slowly pick off all the bikes. First you'de see the the 600's start to fall back at about 120-30 and then the 750's at about 150 and the liter bikes at about 165-70. I also realize that the rider is a huge variable but if you look at 1/4 mile times i usually see the 750's ahead of the liter bikes, and i assume that has to do with wheelie issues .
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