08-11-2008, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokiou
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whats what they all say.
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Yeap. But watch what they do, rather than just listen to what they say Pok.
Honda is only bettered in terms of $$ spent, by Toyota.
Additionally, F1 investment without an intelligent team is redundant - Honda have assembled a very strong team led by Brawn. These factors combine should put them further and further up the grid next season / beyond.
Originally Posted by Mattk
^To be honest, I agree. Both Honda and Toyota are slowly getting their act together and building decent packages.
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08-12-2008, 12:43 AM
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Can Ross + Alonso Matches Ross + Schumi ?
15 mil for Alonso sounds abit cheap.
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08-12-2008, 01:52 AM
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Like i said. They hire all these drivers to race for them and hope the world of the driver. BUT if the car is crap what do you expect Alonso to do ??
It will be 2010 before Honda is really competetive.
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08-12-2008, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokiou
Like i said. They hire all these drivers to race for them and hope the world of the driver. BUT if the car is crap what do you expect Alonso to do ??
It will be 2010 before Honda is really competetive.
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Really, why 2010?
Next years cars introduces new technologies and dynamics and thus levels the playing field somewhat. Honda are spending most of this year refining the 2009 car, they will also have a substantial development advantage over the others.
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08-26-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blue8
Although such rumors continue, I don't think it would happen. I would much rather see Robert Kubica in Ferrari
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so..
more Kubica-to-Ferrari rumors
Behind closed doors, another equally intense struggle is taking place in the paddock – and the prize is a seat at Ferrari in 2010. BMW's highly rated Pole Robert Kubica is believed to have negotiated a 12-month extension to his contract, rather than sign the team's preferred three-year deal. If BMW do not emerge as a consistently competitive force next year, Kubica will be free to seek alternative employment – and out-of-sorts world champion Raikkonen's Ferrari contract expires at the end of 2009.
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DailyTelegraph :: http://tiny.pl/8xq5
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08-26-2008, 08:15 PM
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^^ It blows me away that Kimi is considered to have "lost his edge".
He's had 3, maybe 4 unfortunate events this season beyond his control. Engine failure, exhaust failure, running up Sutil (Monaco), blown-engine in Valencia...
He would be high in the points stakes, if he wasn't plagued by the bad-luck run he's had recently.
Yes, that is racing. No, it doesn't mean he's necessarily lost his edge.
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08-26-2008, 11:03 PM
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his shit.
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08-26-2008, 11:46 PM
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dont forget australia with kimi but i think he is still a great driver it will be intresting to see how the year plays out and if ferrari replaces drivers next year
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08-27-2008, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokiou
his shit.
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I don't follow you. Elaborate?
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08-27-2008, 09:56 AM
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I dont think Honda will change drivers for next year.
Also Kimi still has all that talent weve seen before.
He can never be written off..
Last edited by dr vinyl; 08-27-2008 at 10:02 AM.
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08-27-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by styla21
^^ It blows me away that Kimi is considered to have "lost his edge".
He's had 3, maybe 4 unfortunate events this season beyond his control. Engine failure, exhaust failure, running up Sutil (Monaco), blown-engine in Valencia...
He would be high in the points stakes, if he wasn't plagued by the bad-luck run he's had recently.
Yes, that is racing. No, it doesn't mean he's necessarily lost his edge.
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I think some people expect Ferrari's #1 to be schumacher after mika like at all times, and the same people also think Massa is rubbish, to which i disagree. So i guess the last few races make Kimi seem sub-rubbish to all these followers. Mind you, due to the great success Ferrari has had the last years, they also have a ton of crappy fans, that don't really know the sport that much, they just like to feel like winners w/o much effort.
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08-28-2008, 08:28 AM
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Ferrari over the years has never overtly forced drivers out. Irvine, Schumacher and Barrichello all left of their own accord, and that's all who've left.
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08-28-2008, 09:35 AM
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Is this true about Eddie Irvine.
with regards to Schumacher he is still on the pay roll,
Ive heard people say the reason why Schumacher he is still on the pay roll is
so as he wont drive for Merc..
Can anybody add comment about this
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08-28-2008, 11:06 AM
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What exactly does Schumacher do at the races?
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08-28-2008, 11:50 AM
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adviser when to pit what tyres.
Apart from being atop driver he made all his own choices too.
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