F1 News & Rumours

[jenkF1]

Im not quite sure how this will work. There wıll be fundımental change because ofcourse all ECUs are totally dıfferent for each engıne. Dıfferent mappıng systems revs torque pages and pages of mathethematıcal dıfference from say a Renault and a Cosworth.

But I think it is for the good of the sport...im not a fan of tractıon control

[DeMoN]

So instead of things being more competitive between teams, they will become competitive by drivers only as all machines are heading on benig the same thing.

[McLaren4eVa]

SO essentially F1 will become a slightly quicker version of the GP" series which is quite exciting with alot of overtaking, i say if u want overtaking get rid of carbon brakes which almost diminish any chance of overtaking. Well we're going to have to wait and see how things get pan out in 08 season with all the modifications.

[nickthaskater]

How do the brakes harm overtaking? It's the aero crap and grooved tires that hurt overtaking. Trim the aero, put on slicks, take away the electronic aids, keep the power up, and we'll be in for some fun races methinks.

[dannyroz]

The fact that F1 is heading for one manufacturer program is absolutely ridiculous. I understand that they want to give the fans what they want which is close racing and overtaking but there are other ways.

I am a fan of Bridgestone and Microsoft (just cus they make the xbox so easy to hack ) but I would rather see competition between rivaling manufacturers because in the end the consumers get these technologies 5-10 years down the road.

I think it was Kubica who said that his Williams car has like a push to pass button which gives there car like 1k more rpm for 20 seconds without harming the engine. The idea is pretty sweet and the FIA should look into it.

Push to pass, slicks, those aero changes that they showed 5 months back, no TC...that is what is going to make F1 be so much better than it is now

[nickthaskater]

Push to pass is retarded, Champ Car and IRL already have it and it just cheezes things up. You should earn the pass, not hit some button and zoom by.

[JoeHahn]

Originally Posted by nickthaskater How do the brakes harm overtaking? It's the aero crap and grooved tires that hurt overtaking. Trim the aero, put on slicks, take away the electronic aids, keep the power up, and we'll be in for some fun races methinks.

The brakes make a huge difference - these cars stop from 200mph in around 100-150m, making it almost impossible to break later than the opponent. If you think about it, brakes play probably the biggest part in lack of overtaking (apart from track design and aero). Give the car homologated roadcar brakes, produces better technology to the end user and makes it more competitive. It's not like 600kg to stop for 2 hours isnt going to be hard with a pair of Enzo/Veyron brakes now is it? The only problem you have then is the 13" wheels

[nickthaskater]

Regardless of the type of brakes used, the drivers will still be using them to their fullest and will still be braking similarly to how they are now, it'll just take longer is all. The only way it would increase opportunity is if some drivers had trouble adjusting to the new brakes and misjudged corners. If one car can brake later, so can the car it's trying to pass, and that's not going to be any different than the current situation.

[5vz-fe]

Originally Posted by nickthaskater Regardless of the type of brakes used, the drivers will still be using them to their fullest and will still be braking similarly to how they are now, it'll just take longer is all. The only way it would increase opportunity is if some drivers had trouble adjusting to the new brakes and misjudged corners. If one car can brake later, so can the car it's trying to pass, and that's not going to be any different than the current situation.

I agree, finding the car's limit are what F1 drivers do best (especially the front drivers). Given similar brake performance (physicaly limitation), the only variance is cooling over the entire race and driver error. Thus the end result will be the same.

[McLaren4eVa]

Originally Posted by JoeHahn Originally Posted by nickthaskater How do the brakes harm overtaking? It's the aero crap and grooved tires that hurt overtaking. Trim the aero, put on slicks, take away the electronic aids, keep the power up, and we'll be in for some fun races methinks. The brakes make a huge difference - these cars stop from 200mph in around 100-150m, making it almost impossible to break later than the opponent. If you think about it, brakes play probably the biggest part in lack of overtaking (apart from track design and aero). Give the car homologated roadcar brakes, produces better technology to the end user and makes it more competitive. It's not like 600kg to stop for 2 hours isnt going to be hard with a pair of Enzo/Veyron brakes now is it? The only problem you have then is the 13" wheels

My point exactly, yes the aero packages make it extremely hard to follow another car but if the cars had different brakes the moment they get close whoever brakes the latest will make the corner. But i do agree with you about the aero but dont worry the new 2008 CDG wings will take care of overtaking, at teh cost of making the cars look like liitle pieces of shit.

[DeMoN]

I heard that Michelin will do all the tires now? Has this bin posted on this thread yet?

[5vz-fe]

^^ I thought it's bridgestone...???

[nickthaskater]

It is Bridgestone, Michelin are gone for 2008

http://www.formula1.com/news/4601.html

[McLaren4eVa]

^^^^^^^ Yes and Michelen are gone in 07 anyway so in a way the single tyre supplier rule starts next year. So long tyre wars. Man just another reason to kill Max Mosley.

[nickthaskater]

Meh, I was never really into the tire wars, I'd much rather just see the actual cars competing against eachother, rather than a great car failing because of shitty tires.