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Old 02-20-2008, 01:55 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by toffytofik View Post
Excuse me, but if we talk about realistic games:

- all that Codemasters develops (CMR, Toca) is in fact... crap. (read: arcadish).
- all the "realistic" games from PS (GT4/5, Forza) are in fact... crap (read: arcadish).
- all of the ISI and SimBin developed simulators (GPL, GTR/GTR2, Race WTCC/Race 2007, rTractor) are realistic but their physics aren't any good.

The only realistic racing simulator with great physics and tire model is on PC and that is Live For Speed. I'm surprised no one knows about it.
netKar Pro (PC) is another sim featuring good physics and tire model, but the development is on halt.
Richard Burns Rally (PC) has decent physics and by far the only real rally simulator available on the market.
We all know about LFS and NKP - but as has been said, even if LFS is "real' (which its not) it is pretty stupid that after all these years theystill have crappy imaginary cars and have never bothered to take the title properly mainstream.

Sadly I paid for their product,a nd it really has not progressed much in the last 2 years at all.

RBR is no better than the IS engine based stuff sorry to say.

I do however fear that GRID will be a more "drift" than "shift"
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:32 PM   #17
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Imaginary cars and tracks doesn't bother majority of people playin' it anyway as long as they get the right feel of the car while racing each other online. That's the fun of LFS which made it the most popular racing sim so far.

RBR's engine isn't that good indeed, but yet it covers some basic aspects of rallying pretty decently. I mentioned it just because there's no better rally sim. If there would be, be sure i'd forgot what RBR is.

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It might sound shallow, but I like games with real life cars in them. GRID is obviously not trying to be realistic as a racing sim, but Codemasters stuff are pretty realistic-ish for an arcady game. In fact, it's probably more fun than a sim. Racing sims are awesome, but they can be very tiring (I don't think I can play any of the SimBin stuff for more than a week). I remember in Colin McRae games where you can just do insane lurid slides on dirt around corners just for fun, not realistic, but fun. I dunno. It's just me. Besides, it'll be worlds better than anything EA can cook up.
Vice versa in my case. I sometimes play these racing games too, they're very appealing visually, but somehow i usually get bored before i even complete 'em. I guess i'm spoiled by simulators, lol.

Anyway, i guess that doesn't really matter what games we play untill we enjoy them and have our fun.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:49 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by toffytofik View Post
Anyway, i guess that doesn't really matter what games we play untill we enjoy them and have our fun.
In the end, yes. That is why we play games: to have fun.

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I do however fear that GRID will be a more "drift" than "shift"
Yeah. I was disappointed that they included drifting, but I guess when you're making a mass selling street racing game these days, you have to have it in there somehow. It'll still be fun.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:27 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska View Post
In the end, yes. That is why we play games: to have fun.



Yeah. I was disappointed that they included drifting, but I guess when you're making a mass selling street racing game these days, you have to have it in there somehow. It'll still be fun.
I agree completely, man. If I wanted to be challenged and frustrated all the time I'd take up ballroom dancing. Most of the time when I'm on my couch playing games it's because I'm trying to wind down from my day.
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:32 PM   #20
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It looks like GRID doesn't want to make things too serious, but that doesn't mean that it can't have lots of awesome features.

Here's what I've gathered so far.

Real circuits
  • Belgium: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
  • France: Circuit de la Sarthe
  • Germany: Nürburgring (GP-Strecke)
  • Spain: Circuito Permanente del Jarama
  • Turkey: Istanbul Park
  • United Kingdom: Donington Park Circuit
Fantasy tracks


USA
  • Detroit
  • San Francisco
  • Washington DC
Japan
  • Shibuya District, Tokyo
  • Yokohama docks
  • Haruna mountain road from the Initial D film (shudders)
Italy
  • Milan
Production cars
  • Dodge Challenger
  • Hennessey Venom
  • Pagani Zonda
  • Plymouth 'Cuda
Race cars
  • Aston Martin DBR9
  • BMW 320si WTCC
  • Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 Race Car (?)
  • Chevrolet Corvette C6R
  • Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC
  • Ferrari F430 GT
  • Ford Boss 302 Mustang
  • Koenigsegg CCGT
  • Lola B06/10 LMP2 Chamberlain-Synergy Motorsport (?)
  • Mazda 787B
  • Nissan 350Z drift
  • Nissan Silvia S15 drift
  • Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 drift
  • Porsche 911 GT3 RSR (996)
  • Saleen S7R
  • Subaru Impreza drift
Misc.
  • Chevrolet Camaro Concept
  • Ford Mustang GTR Concept
Gameplay
  • EGO Engine - based on NEON engine
  • No customization
  • Car damage
  • Drifting - sophisticated scoring system, likened to D1 GP's.
  • Officially licensed 24 Heures du Mans - won't take 24hrs. (24 minutes?) Time of day rendering
  • Flashback - give you ability to recover from a crash by going back in time to prevent it. (?!!!?!?!!!)
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:19 PM   #21
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Im waiting for that game!
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Old 03-15-2008, 08:00 AM   #22
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I only have one problem with Live for Speed... It is so perfect, that everything else, even GTR2 feels like a cheap arcade game.

But back to topic. The screenshots look realy cool and the car list is awesome, maybe a bit short, but if every car really behaves different (and a bit more realistic than Race Driver 3), it should be enough to have much fun.
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:11 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by rwd-freak View Post
But back to topic. The screenshots look realy cool and the car list is awesome, maybe a bit short
It's not a complete list.
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Old 03-15-2008, 04:50 PM   #24
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is that an MC12 in the 3 pic???
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Old 03-15-2008, 05:17 PM   #25
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Nope. S7R. Who knows, they might have one in the game.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:15 PM   #26
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I need a new computer NOW!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32013.html
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:53 PM   #27
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i think the milan circut was also used in Grand Turismo 2 ???
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:05 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska View Post
I need a new computer NOW!
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:35 AM   #29
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Holy cow this game looks great. Hopefully the Dirt physics engine translates well to tarmac surfaces.
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Old 04-14-2008, 05:38 PM   #30
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32539.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32753.html

There's a rumor that the game will be locked at 30fps. If that's true, I hope that's only for the console version, and stay uncapped for the PC.

This is probably from a PC. And it looks like the replay cam programmer comes from the Michael Bay school of cinemaphotography.

But it gets Long Beach as a track!
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