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dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 09:19 AM

I'm still trying to offload the car (I'm still asking too much I guess

) and I'm wondering what (American market) places you would list a car for sale? Thanks.

Craig

sameerrao · 07-31-2006, 09:48 AM

Autotrader, craigslist. Do you know of a web forum focussed on SRT4s?

TNT · 07-31-2006, 10:08 AM

ebay aswell. or look for a local web site for your area that has classifieds. when i posted my truck on my counties class. i got like 5-6 people asking about it. and one was really intent on buying it.

dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by sameerrao

Autotrader, craigslist. Do you know of a web forum focussed on SRT4s?

I know a couple but the problem with them is the demographic tends not to have any money. One guy offered me his honda civic hatch as an even trade, and countless others asked me to part out the car instead, so it was basically useless. And as with any car forum, selling a car that everyone knows EVERYTHING about has been hard, they want it for less.

I've tried craigslist and I'm going to keep at it. Thing is I'm probably still asking too much.

Thanks for you advice guys, keep it coming.

StanAE86 · 07-31-2006, 11:51 AM

In the past, I've bought and sold cars off Autotrader, cars.com, and craigslist. What car and price are you asking? Sometimes it's hard to put a "fair" price on a car you've gotten attached to. And as with most cars, it is never the sum of the parts on it (if it's tricked ou). Tricking a car out tends to devalue the car for everyone, except another enthusiast.

Good luck.

tuffguy · 07-31-2006, 12:28 PM

How much are you asking for it? The problem with cars like the SRT-4, Evo, STI, is that they were probably driven hard/abused, so a lot of people are wary of modded cars.

dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 12:39 PM

I'm asking about 19 obo. I know about the abuse, everyone with an SRT beats the hell out of them. I thought mine was worth a premium since I haven't wrecked it.

I actually haven't beaten on the car that much. I've been to the track only twice and don't street race.

It's an 03 with LSD installed afterward, brand new engine, clutch, turbo, and rear tires. It's got 38k miles on it. I know the mods made it worth little, I'm not asking half what I put into it so I hope 19 isn't bad. Most big turbo srt's go for 16 but those are all stock suspension and mine's fully spec'd.

tuffguy · 07-31-2006, 12:50 PM

:shock:

You're asking $19k for a 3 year old car with 38k miles that originally sold for $20k?

Your best bet is to try to sell it to a member of your SRT-4 boards who will pay a little bit more for the mods. Otherwise, the KBB price is under $15k.

StanAE86 · 07-31-2006, 01:05 PM

Take this with a grain of salt, please. I'm not trying to be judgmental, but here is my third person, don't know you, don't know your car, adult point of view:

The new engine is hurting you. There are two schools of thought on the matter. One, a new engine means a lot of life left in the car...if it were a BMW 5 series wagon with 150k miles on the chassis or something. On a car with 38k miles on the chassis, and a new motor, it tells me something went wrong because of possibly, abuse. It might help if you have document that the repair was done at the dealer through warranty, but if it was through a third party, my initial thoughts would be that you overboosted the first motor because of tricks and racing. Also, is there a warranty on the motor? Generally speaking, on that type of car, even if you had a perfectly good excuse, I would likely avoid your car and go for one with little to no mods.

I see you're in LA. I would list the car in SF Craigslist. Also, research the listings there, first. You don't want yours to be the most expensive, unless it really warrants it. But you have to deal with a potential out of area buyer. I just did a quick search on CL in SF and I think you probably need to significantly lower your price. This car:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/187608348.html

will probably sell sooner than yours at $19k. You're just not going to get top dollar for your car, given it's history and mods.

This car has about 20k more miles, but a lot more mods. This is for comparison:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/187539425.html

Actually, I found this:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/187444717.html

I'm guessing this is you? Your car is significantly modified. You're not going to get the "sum of the parts" for your car. It looks like a great ride. It's too bad you're selling it. Unfortunately, on cars like yours, so heavily modified, it takes a very specific buyer that will want the car. If you can wait, you may get a buyer sooner or later. But, buying a car so heavily modified suggests it has had a hard (very hard) life. Despite what you tell people, they won't believe you. Especially the motor replacement.

If I were to guess, I would say you car would sell in $16-$17k range. Although a pain in the ass, if you still have the stock parts, give some though to pulling off all the go-fast parts and selling the car in a more stock form...you'll probably get about $13-$14k for the car and your parts might garner a few extra thousand...landing you in the $16-$17k range.

Good luck. Sitting on a car that won't sell sucks. If you re-list it with a lower price, take new pictures of it, write a new ad, and wait about two weeks for people to forget about the original listing.

dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 02:23 PM

Yea that's mine. Sigh.

I know what the new engine suggests, and I do have an excuse, and I know no one will believe it. The oil pump failed on my way home from a long, terrible day (this is a story unto itself. Stupid girl my friend likes is drunk at a party 20 miles away and needs to be driven home. I let him convince me to drive and I lost my engine an 7,000 dollars), the intake cam siezed into the head, and it died. What really blows is the shop that did the work (a really good shop in Walnut Creek) would have charged 1500 dollars to pull the head. I figured it was best to get a new engine, and I pull it home to find out the engine's actually fine. The head (which I'm actually taking to be machined today) was the only damaged piece, save of course the oil pump. I've also a brand new Darrell Cox Racing oil pump good for over 500 hp, so I've got a perfectly fine longblock sitting in my garage. These parts don't sell. I'm selling them for 30% cost.

My honest opinion is this thing is going to turn into one of those Dodge Omnis. Remember those old little hatches? Only a VERY small group of people owns and mods them now but they love them.

And believe me I know I'm not getting sum of parts. Total this car has 20k in mods and labor, on top of msrp. I've spared nothing believe me. I've had the oil changed three times in 4200 miles, broke the car in without boosting at all for 1000 miles, and then filled it with race gas for 1000 miles to make absolutely certain the tune had time to work into the pcm.

Oh and the guy asking 15.8 only has about 3k in mods if that. Everything in his car is cosmetic save the SAFC which he shouldn't actually have gotten, since for the price and work you have to do to install it, with the stock turbo it'll make tuning it'll free less than 20 horses. The lowering springs ruin the handling. Goes to show they really don't help in price.

tuffguy · 07-31-2006, 02:34 PM

I believe you about the oil pump. My co-worker had a 2006 STI and his oil pump failed. His engine had to be completely rebuilt. He ended up trading it in for an Evo.

dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by tuffguy

:shock:

You're asking $19k for a 3 year old car with 38k miles that originally sold for $20k?

Your best bet is to try to sell it to a member of your SRT-4 boards who will pay a little bit more for the mods. Otherwise, the KBB price is under $15k.

Yea I know it's a lot to ask.

StanAE86 · 07-31-2006, 02:45 PM

Yeah, it's going to be hard getting that much for the car. The people in the used market for that car, don't have $20k to spend on a used car. The other people that have $20k, are looking to buy it new. The last group of people with $20k are looking at stuff like used M3s or S4s or WRXs instead.

I used to have a 1985 Corolla that was bad-ass. Leagues above what others were doing to their cars- so far as mods. So much so, that when I sold it, it was out of the price range of anyone that was interested in that car. $4k for a RWD Corolla is top top top dollar. Most guys were looking at $1k-$2.5k cars. Mine at like $8k of mods wasn't going to sell, even though I was only asking $8k (basically like you, pay for the mods and get the car free). So it sat. After a long time, it ultimately sold to another hardcore enthusiast that saw the value in not having to build another car, when he could buy mine for less than the sum of the parts. But the car sat for a long time, nearly a year, waiting to be sold and with only a few tire kickers. I wasn't very flexible on the price, because I could still use it as a track car, but was bored of owning a non-streetable car. Those that could pay $8k, couldn't see themselves paying $8k for a "Corolla".

Tricked out economy cars are a tough sell because you have a relatively inexpesive car to start with and despite the mods, your base is still the economy car. It's like what Tuffguy said, even though it's all modded out, a buyer sees the fact that a new car is the same (or nearly the same) price. On top of that, he/she may not want to mod the car as significantly as you have, so the buyer devalues your car. "I don't care about the X or the X or the X, so I'll only pay $16k."

Again, best of luck.

saadie · 07-31-2006, 02:59 PM

put it on ebay .. .
give away 5 porno DVD's with it

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dangerously_cool · 07-31-2006, 03:04 PM

Yea did. I'm new to selling stuff on ebay so I'm sure I could've worded it better (/punctuation is somehow impossible so it was a massive paragraph), and even after selling a PS2 (which screwed me because shipping turned out to be half what I made since the guy lived in the hicks) it isn't going to cover the cost of listing the SRT, lol.