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Donny · 01-02-2004, 09:21 AM

Guys,

First of all, a happy new year!!! 2004....the year the new m5 will be introduced. For all of you who cannot wait till that moment, I hereby sent a couple of pics from the new M5 on the ring. (Note...I did NOT take the pics myself, I copied them from www.bmwm5.com)

Regards,

DOn

TT · 01-02-2004, 09:25 AM

Those pics were first seen some months ago I think. There is also a short video clip around. And there is already another topic with pics of the E60 M5 -> http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2881

hgt · 01-02-2004, 12:05 PM

Noting new unfortunatelly. I just hope that they will leave a manual gearbox and SMG only as an option (unlike on the M3 CSL).

jon_s · 01-02-2004, 12:09 PM

I agree with you there hgt, I would not mind it as an option, but standard! No way!

pimrusis · 01-02-2004, 12:44 PM

Is it going to be a V-10 with an SMG?

Fleischmann · 01-02-2004, 02:33 PM

Hey Pimrusis !!!

As far as I know you are correct, the ///M5 will be fitted with a V10 and a 7 speed SMG or standard manual.

yg60m · 01-02-2004, 02:52 PM

I already read it but I didn't believe it would have a 7 speed gearbox and i am not convinced yet. I will wait for the official presentation. For the engine, it's sure it will be a V10 but the capacity is not determinated : 5 or 5.5 litres ?
Anyway, the power should be higher than 500 bhp, but as it's N/A engine it will have a deficience of torque compare to the E55 so I am not sure it will accelerate as hard ...

hgt · 01-02-2004, 02:55 PM

Yep, the V10 is for sure and probably 5,5 litre 550 bhp. Eventhough this SMG III will be better than the current SMG (which I've tried on a Z4 3,0 and it sucked a lot) I would always prefer a manual. Especially in a BMW (made by ZF or Getrag).

yg60m · 01-02-2004, 03:04 PM

Note that the SMG that you can find in a Z4 or 3 series is not really the same you have in the M3 (and I suppose future M5). It does not have the same hardware and I'm not sure they come from the same manufacture. The faster the M3 SMG changes gear is 80 milliseconds (claimed) and the Z4 is 150.

hgt · 01-02-2004, 03:53 PM

Exactly. The one on ///M3 is called SMG III (as I wrote above). It is supposed to be smarter and has the regulation of speed of gear changes. But here neither the smartness (software) nor the quickness were the issue. It's just the whole idea. Maybe after 10 years of developement those systems will be fine, but for now - no way for me.

hgt · 01-02-2004, 03:57 PM

But the news is that BMW will probably build an M7 with.... 700bhp. Which in fact should be no surprise if they want to keep the sporty badge over M-B and their 65 AMG cars.

asthenia · 01-02-2004, 07:25 PM

An M7? Do you have any more info about that? The mother of all limosines...

hgt · 01-02-2004, 07:38 PM

There has been some rumor about it some months ago and it's been confirmed in Dec, but I'm afraid that it's still a long way to it's debut. No testing cars or infos so it will take some time yet.

hgt · 01-02-2004, 07:46 PM

Something like that: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

How about it???????

Leo_M3 · 01-02-2004, 09:49 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble mate,

I highly doubt BMW will create an M7, I read it somewhere where they believe that its unessecery. I disagree with what they think, but unfortunately I doubt an M7 will be born somtime soon.....

And with the M5's transmissions, they better have a manual available.
It would be so stupid to have SMG only, it would steal so many sales!

But damn, SMG with V10!!!! F1 for the road!!!