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79TA · 05-09-2008, 01:27 AM

^ There is actually quite a bit of truth in that. Without the launch control, the GT-R took 4.0 seconds to get to zero. Quite a bit off form the herioc 3.2. Launch is one of those things where electronic aids can make a huge difference.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

No, this isn't contradictory to my other "no, the GT-R is too heavy to do that with that much power" type posts. No amount of traction wizardry can explain how a 2 ton car (probably just under 4100 pounds with a driver and gas) can trap at 121 mph with just 480 hp.

04RCSTI · 05-09-2008, 01:32 AM

hahahaha. I think that the only route to go when the DSG starts to fail is an AMT with wet clutches. The DSG system certainly isnt meant to manage that much HP over stock. DSG takes a long time to perfect and to get it to work smoothly so you can bet that Nissan started with the engine and then developed the transmission around it. The system is definitely going to fail as you start to add more HP. The answer, I think, is either to make a DSG system that can handle the power, or an AMT such as the one in the F430, to handle all the power that the VQ38 can throw at it. An AMT with wet clutches is more than capable of handling the power due to the larger disc/contact patches. It just takes more development to get it into the same range that the F430 is at. The 599 gtb is at 100ms and it "feels" seamless. The F430 at 60 MS....is practically perfect. Make a DSG that can handle the power and shift quickly and you have a definite winner. (if this doesnt make any sense... blame it on alcohol)

Pokiou · 05-09-2008, 03:51 AM

i dont think its teh DSG or the wet plates more or less the components that are used to make the car. I think the nissan can make about 600 maybe more hp with maybe just changing the plates inside rather then changing the whole box ? and if the box gets changed then that would add to weight and make other problems.. maybe use denser metal or carbon fiber?? why dont they make a gear box out of carbon fiber ? ... i wonder :S

pagani · 05-09-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

What joke? I do believe their a couple of LSx Skylines posted on these very boards..

I posted the videos
And i quite like the v8 engine swap into the skyline

Pokiou · 05-09-2008, 04:01 AM

Its lame useless and taking the post off topic!

RC45 · 05-09-2008, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Pokiou

Its lame useless and taking the post off topic!

Suck it up.

If we weren't here discussing all things GT-R there would be no-one reading your post at all.

Pokiou · 05-09-2008, 05:28 AM

:/ shut up

RC45 · 05-09-2008, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Pokiou

:/ shut up

You heard it boys... no more discussion allowed in this topic... I heard there was a great F1 topic three threads over. Let's go....

04RCSTI · 05-09-2008, 12:21 PM

I highly highly doubt your electronic overboost theory.

GT-R is just another good car guys. Just take the positives... great engine, great transmission and apparently a pretty good chassis. Lots of technology and sticky tires. If it weren't for the weight, you have to accept it would be a really good car.

I'm not saying I like computers on wheels in fact I love the fact that my car has no driver aids other than ABS. But as compared to other cars, its pretty damn good.

I think what you guys are protesting the most isnt the car, but the hype fanboys and nissan have built around it with crazy claims...

79TA · 05-09-2008, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by 04RCSTI

I think what you guys are protesting the most isnt the car, but the hype fanboys and nissan have built around it with crazy claims...

exactly. It's fast. It is not Jesus. That is all.

I think I'll really like the spec V if it comes with a roll cage (like the old GT-R concept). I'm tired of cars that can only be legally run in the quarter mile once. It'd be nice to see a manufacturer stylishly integrate a roll cage into a road car.

RC45 · 05-09-2008, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by 79TA

exactly. It's fast. It is not Jesus. That is all.

I think I'll really like the spec V if it comes with a roll cage (like the old GT-R concept). I'm tired of cars that can only be legally run in the quarter mile once. It'd be nice to see a manufacturer stylishly integrate a roll cage into a road car.

The way Ruf intergrates the cage into his cars.

Very subtle, and as you say, allows you to come to the drag strip next to defend you sub-11.50 victory crown hehe

HeilSvenska · 05-09-2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by RC45

The way Ruf intergrates the cage into his cars.

Or the way TVR made them sexy with leather wrapped roll cage in the Sagaris.

RC45 · 05-09-2008, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska

Or the way TVR made them sexy with leather wrapped roll cage in the Sagaris.

I think the cage in the TVR was more to have something solid to hook the tow rope to... Ruf's seem a tad more reliable than TVR's

hehe

pitfield · 05-09-2008, 06:46 PM

Hahahaha, put an LS3 in that? I big lump of iron, crap!!!!

RC45 · 05-09-2008, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by pitfield

Hahahaha, put an LS3 in that? I big lump of iron, crap!!!!

It is actually aluminium from top to bottom, weighs less, and is capable of producing more power in NA form from an engine with a physically smaller size..

Nice try though