Tons of Exotics in Toronto (Ferraris!!!)

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by toronto and have better braking, power to weight, top speed, chick magnet, better racing history, and the 360cs is faster then the vette in a straight line and Slalom and is $140,000 more then the vette, who said italians didn't know a thing or two about selling cars that people would buy wrong - comparable braking wrong - wrong essentially same weight wrong - hence same power to weight wrong - similar top speed if you need a ferrari to get a chick you're fucked anyway racing history is debatable - the Challenge cars compete in a single make series - the GT's and GTC's compete against others - these are pure race only cars.. derived from the street car - not vice versa wrong - the CS is the same specs as the Vette point for point as proven in head to head tests Italians are known to sucker posers, yuppies and new money into blowing their wad on trendy status symbols.. Face it - the 360 is nothing more thn a status symbol for the starbucks generation

2000 360
Top Speed: 189 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft
Curb Weight: 3065 lbs
Horsepower: 395 bhp @ 8500 rpm

2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Top Speed: 171 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 123 ft
Curb Weight: 3130 lbs
Horsepower: 385 bhp @ 6000 rpm

more hp less, weight means better power to weight, so i don't know how that could be wrong?
13 feet in braking is alot (an enzo does it in 109 ft, so your going to tell em that a vette is as good as braking as an enzo?)
and by better racing history i ment the company, the brand, the reason for ferrari road cars, to support its racing....
and i would love to see you head to head test of the 360cs vs zo6, please post them.

[Nik^XeN]

Nice picture in the beginning! that Diablo VT, very nice, thnq man

[RC45]

Originally Posted by toronto 2000 360 Top Speed: 189 mph Braking, 60-0 mph: 110 ft Curb Weight: 3065 lbs Horsepower: 395 bhp @ 8500 rpm 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Top Speed: 171 mph Braking, 60-0 mph: 123 ft Curb Weight: 3130 lbs Horsepower: 385 bhp @ 6000 rpm more hp less, weight means better power to weight, so i don't know how that could be wrong? 13 feet in braking is alot (an enzo does it in 109 ft, so your going to tell em that a vette is as good as braking as an enzo?) and by better racing history i ment the company, the brand, the reason for ferrari road cars, to support its racing.... and i would love to see you head to head test of the 360cs vs zo6, please post them.

It is amazing how you guys get it so wrong - so many times. I am about to dispute yuour figures - AGAIN - (dejavue all over again hey - we just did this for 24 pages in another topic)

Well - let's see... Road & Track and AWW were the ONLY clowns that failed the braking test - the drivers failed - not the car.

Every other magazine (and owners) struggled to repeat that pathetic distances they got.

This is the more accepted and in fact true results of braking tests.

Prepare to be owned.. because the Z06 is one of the BEST stoping cars - ever produced..

Braking (ft.)

CD August 2000
152ft (70 - 0 mph)

MT August 2000
106ft (60 - 0 mph)

MT November 2000
111ft (60 - 0 mph)

RT August 2000
123ft (60 - 0 mph)
212ft (80 - 0 mph)

RT January 2001
123ft (60 - 0 mph)

AWW December 2000
147ft (60 - 0 mph)

AW January 2001
105ft (60 - 0 mph)
188ft (80 - 0 mph)

CD February 2001
152ft (70 - 0 mph)

MT April 2001
103ft (60 - 0 mph)

RT June 2001
123ft (60 - 0 mph)
212ft (80 - 0 mph)

MT August 2001
105 (60 - 0 mph)
303 (100 - 0 mph)

Having weighed my car ( and other owners - the curb weight is 3050lbs ) - and it would seem the curb weight everyone throws around for the 360 is the CLAIMED weight from Ferrari - which is a dry weight... and in fact the car weighs in at 3100 odd lbs - which would give the 2001 Z06 the win on power to weight ..

Nice try though - all I can say is - been there done that. Bring it on

[RC45]

Originally Posted by everso Originally Posted by RC45 Originally Posted by toronto and have better braking, power to weight, top speed, chick magnet, better racing history, and the 360cs is faster then the vette in a straight line and Slalom and is $140,000 more then the vette, who said italians didn't know a thing or two about selling cars that people would buy wrong - comparable braking wrong - wrong essentially same weight wrong - hence same power to weight wrong - similar top speed if you need a ferrari to get a chick you're fucked anyway racing history is debatable - the Challenge cars compete in a single make series - the GT's and GTC's compete against others - these are pure race only cars.. derived from the street car - not vice versa wrong - the CS is the same specs as the Vette point for point as proven in head to head tests Italians are known to sucker posers, yuppies and new money into blowing their wad on trendy status symbols.. Face it - the 360 is nothing more thn a status symbol for the starbucks generation remember how some of you guys chipped in to get TT a ride in that Enzo? you think maybe we can all chip in some money to get RC45 a ride in a Ferrari 360?

I remember fondly sending TT on his ENzo trip... you would have to pay me to go in a ride along in a 360..

Now a 355 is a different story - that is a car I like...

[nurbrun]

There is hi res available just tell me wich ones and there was no event happening it was just a sunny saturday afternoon.........we spent about 4 hrs there........it is really fun walking around going into stores and just doing nothing but seeing these awsome car

[Fleischmann]

Holy shit!! That black 348 has to be one of the most badass cars I've ever seen. :shock:

[TT]

Originally Posted by nurbrun There is hi res available just tell me wich ones and there was no event happening it was just a sunny saturday afternoon.........we spent about 4 hrs there........it is really fun walking around going into stores and just doing nothing but seeing these awsome car

I hope you won't mind for a quite big list but I'm sure everybody will love them in highres

6316.jpg
9605.jpg
blk348.jpg
8334.jpg
360sf.jpg
360s.jpg
silv360.jpg
550360.jpg
550360n.jpg
550360nn.jpg

only when/if you can

[Stikz]

damn nurbrun, i've never seen so many exotics on one day in downtown. Where exactly did you take the pics? Were they around Yonge and Bloor or Bay and Bloor? I'm assuming it was Yorkville.

[TT]

I'm assuming it was Yorkville

no need to assume if only you will read his post

[nthfinity]

I remember fondly sending TT on his ENzo trip... you would have to pay me to go in a ride along in a 360.. Now a 355 is a different story - that is a car I like...

isnt that funny how true that statement is?
i still love the 360, but it just doesnt seem to belong in the same catagory as the moniker 'ferrari'

on the other hand... if those brutal italians can find a way to make more money then ever before, why not? thats good capitolism (and a good way to loose resale value )

[tigerx]

jeez the best i've seen in mississauga are 355 and 996 turbo, but no pic so i'll STFU now .

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by RC45 Braking (ft.) CD August 2000 152ft (70 - 0 mph) MT August 2000 106ft (60 - 0 mph) MT November 2000 111ft (60 - 0 mph) RT August 2000 123ft (60 - 0 mph) 212ft (80 - 0 mph) RT January 2001 123ft (60 - 0 mph) AWW December 2000 147ft (60 - 0 mph) AW January 2001 105ft (60 - 0 mph) 188ft (80 - 0 mph) CD February 2001 152ft (70 - 0 mph) MT April 2001 103ft (60 - 0 mph) RT June 2001 123ft (60 - 0 mph) 212ft (80 - 0 mph) MT August 2001 105 (60 - 0 mph) 303 (100 - 0 mph) Having weighed my car ( and other owners - the curb weight is 3050lbs ) - and it would seem the curb weight everyone throws around for the 360 is the CLAIMED weight from Ferrari - which is a dry weight... and in fact the car weighs in at 3100 odd lbs - which would give the 2001 Z06 the win on power to weight .. Nice try though - all I can say is - been there done that. Bring it on

well if you average out all the numbers you gave me (60-0), it is still higher then a 360, so i don't know you point...

and the power to waight thing is the claimed weights by the factories, so if your z06 weighs less, mayb the ferrari does too, and even if it weighs more the z06 is 10bhp down on the 360, so it doesn't really make it have a better power to weight.

i am still waiting on the 360cs vs. z06 were the z06 wins artical.

[RC45]

here we go off topic because you just refuse to face the facts that the Ferrari 360 is "not all that" - and in fact si an over-rated over-priced yuppie-fad car.

If the F355 had 10/10 for soul and presence and ability - the 360 barely scores a 2.

Originally Posted by toronto well if you average out all the numbers you gave me (60-0), it is still higher then a 360, so i don't know you point...

You are so quick to "average the distances" - WTF is that?? How about you post 10 different test results for the 360 so we can see what everyone says?

It is rather strange, that not only does R&T get distances 15% off other magazines - they also somehow get the THE SAME DISTANCE for 3 separate tests... while no one else seems to be able to be that consistent or that poor drivers.. And who are these AWW clown - 147ft? That shows either poor driver or poorly prepared maintained car - but more than likely a mis-print and they actually did a 70-0 test.

I have easily produced a 115ft stoping distance as measured by a windshield mounted Tazzo device. Not a bad distance for an impromptu test on the street.

If you really want to be pedantic and average the numbers - then lets drop the best and worst and average the rest... that still produces a 113ft average vs the 116ft average that includes numbers that appear obviously too high.

Originally Posted by toronto and the power to waight thing is the claimed weights by the factories, so if your z06 weighs less, mayb the ferrari does too, and even if it weighs more the z06 is 10bhp down on the 360, so it doesn't really make it have a better power to weight.

Lets see.. GM is notorious for under claiming power and over claiming weights.. as well as overstating 0-60 and 1/4 times.. Makes for great PR when magazines and owners return numbers better than the factory brochure.

Ferrari however do otherwise. They claim the 360 weighs in at 2980 odd lbs.. but all you have to do is search around the web to owner forums where they have weighed their cars and are shocked and horrified to learn their cars weigh closer to 3100 lbs with fuel..

That is the reality - don't shoot the messenger - go look for yourself - talk to 360 owners that have had their cars weighed at road race tracks etc.

On the other hand, I and many other Z06 owners have had our cars weighed - only to learn the curb weight with fuel is actually closer to 3060lbs.. so again a wash. 2001 hz06 @ 7.9lb/hp vs 360 @ 7.84lb/hp.

The story is repeated with the 360CS vs 2002 @ newer Z06's

Originally Posted by toronto i am still waiting on the 360cs vs. z06 were the z06 wins artical.

Show me the one where the 360CS wins against the 2004 Z16...

Without your pedigree claims, racing heritage claims, limited edition claims, more expensive claims, more exclusive claims... the comparisons show the 360 to be an overpriced average performing car that without the afore mentioned "snob appeal" is really just a run of the mill sporty car in this day and age.

Reality sucks.

Oh and this topic only highlights that while the car has "Starbucks" appeal on the road - it is just too common these days..

If I hadn't yet said so - nice pictures..

[SFDMALEX]

The corvette sucks its slow it doesnt corner it doesnt have good cup holders and its too cheap and ass common dirty socks in the dry cleaners.

[T-Bird]

first off a Z06 isn't that common man I see just as many 360's as Z06's they are fast and they corner and who the fuck takes socks to a dry cleaner you lazy ass.