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View Poll Results: McLaren F1
subzero 87 73.73%
cool 14 11.86%
uncool 9 7.63%
seriously uncool 8 6.78%
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:16 PM   #16
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Sub-zero 8) No question about it, the greatest car ever made.

A side note, didn't we already have a McLaren "cool-wall" topic...? Was that for the LM?

A cool topic on the F1, with Flemke providing some interesting information. :arrow: click

Originally Posted by everso
way overrated. ugly, and bad handling.

if you buy an F1, they restrict your driving in YOUR car....that's how uncool this car is.

seriously uncool.

the Veyron is a better car, a faster car, and a far more interesting one. One of the F1s biggest fans is a man named Thomas Dscher, who owned an F1 and was involved with McLaren back in the day.....guess what he does now? he owns a Veyron and RUNS Bugatti.
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There you go again, on about how there's some plot to keep McLaren owners from driving their cars. Why and how would they do that? How is a company in England going to control how much millionaire & billionaire owners who live all over the world drive their own car?

One of the F1s biggest fans is a man named Thomas Dscher, who owned an F1 and was involved with McLaren back in the day.....guess what he does now? he owns a Veyron and RUNS Bugatti.
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What does that prove at all? By your logic, him being involved in McLaren would make him stupid/bad engineer/uninspered/moron which would mean if he ran Bugatti, Bugatti must suck just as much as McLaren does, right?

As a follow up to your claim that McLaren limits the amount of driving...didin't Dscher drive his McLaren to work daily, 200km each way? That doesn't sound like much limiting to me...
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Old 05-11-2006, 02:39 PM   #17
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why is everybody voting sub zero ??
this is the uncoolest car EVER !!!
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Old 05-11-2006, 03:52 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by bmagni
why is everybody voting sub zero ??
this is the uncoolest car EVER !!!
:shocked!: :shocked!: WHAT!!!! ban him!!!










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Old 05-11-2006, 04:18 PM   #19
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McLaren F1's actually have some of the highes mileages of any supercars out there, and having seen a vid of an F1 on the 'Ring i highly doubt McLaren would somehow keep owners from driving on circuits...

There's definitely been a F1 LM topic on the cool wall, no doubt about it.

and the sound of the car, as heard in the final seconds of that top gear episode which was already mentioned...AW MY GOD it gives me SUCH goosebumps, its incredible
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Old 05-11-2006, 04:21 PM   #20
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what a piece of turd pile that happens to have a brilliant engine on board; pitty the chassis wasn't as good

seriously uncool
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:05 PM   #21
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^^^Are you ever going to back up your claim to McLaren limiting how much you can drive the F1?
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:04 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by bmuller
Just now being topped after over 10 years, definitely sub-zero.

Also, what are these claims of your driving being limited by McLaren?
if by "being topped" you mean the 14+ year old Vector W8 going faster, and cornering better... and "cheaper" and more exclusive... well, the F1 was topped long ago.... in fact, it was only a "top price"
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:10 PM   #23
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The steering wheel is in the center of the car, it looks great, 242mph, gold engine bay.

Its subzero you silly naysayers :x

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Old 05-11-2006, 08:16 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
Originally Posted by bmuller
Just now being topped after over 10 years, definitely sub-zero.

Also, what are these claims of your driving being limited by McLaren?
if by "being topped" you mean the 14+ year old Vector W8 going faster, and cornering better... and "cheaper" and more exclusive... well, the F1 was topped long ago.... in fact, it was only a "top price"
was there a run by the Vector where it reached more top speed ??
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:56 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by bmuller
Originally Posted by bmagni
Originally Posted by nthfinity
Originally Posted by bmuller
Just now being topped after over 10 years, definitely sub-zero.

Also, what are these claims of your driving being limited by McLaren?
if by "being topped" you mean the 14+ year old Vector W8 going faster, and cornering better... and "cheaper" and more exclusive... well, the F1 was topped long ago.... in fact, it was only a "top price"
was there a run by the Vector where it reached more top speed ??
^^Exactly, show me an officially clocked run and I'll shut up.

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I know the guy who officially ran it at Boneville to 242 mph. He is the same guy who owns the car thats currently in my sig.... and running at Boneville means you have official timing

It was published long ago in one publication... but as the first costomers were taking deliveries, Insurance companies wouldn't insure them.

so Vector Aeromotive changed their "top speed" estimation to "200+"

the media took that as a sign that the W8 couldn't actually meet its goals.... which are completely untrue.

the car reaches a top speed of 242 mph @ 8200 rpm, rev limited... so Jerry's claim that the car could go 250 mph isn't so outlandish.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:09 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by bmuller
Still, what happened to the vectors? Would insurance companies also not cover mclarens, b/c being that my dad is an insurance agent and insures many high-end exotics(enzo, murcielagos, phantoms, but no mclarens however), I know thats not the issue...
what year did the Mclaren come out?
94? mabey 95?

when it came out, top speed was not its advertising slogan.

in fact, no F1 in "stock" form can go more then 231 mph, but 241 is possible if the rpm limiter is removed.

by the time the Macca was being called the fastest @ 231/241 mph; there were already a slew of other 200+ mph cars... but the Vector was the first street production car past 210 mph


as to what happened to them, Tommy Lasurta (megatech) happened... and a hostile takover ensued; and Vector was no longer the guys who made it... of the original team, only a stylist remained... one stylest.

shop was moved to Florida, and Megatech also recently bought Lamborghini... so lambo chassis+ engines were re bodied... the engine was mounted 180 degress different, and a getrag 5 speed was used...

that was quoted as being "the worst car in the world"
the W8 shared no components with the M12
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:30 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by bmuller
Originally Posted by bmagni
Originally Posted by nthfinity
Originally Posted by bmuller
Just now being topped after over 10 years, definitely sub-zero.

Also, what are these claims of your driving being limited by McLaren?
if by "being topped" you mean the 14+ year old Vector W8 going faster, and cornering better... and "cheaper" and more exclusive... well, the F1 was topped long ago.... in fact, it was only a "top price"
was there a run by the Vector where it reached more top speed ??
^^Exactly, show me an officially clocked run and I'll shut up.

*Remember, OFFICIAL
lol, not really, I don't want an official run, I don't care... I just wanted to know if there was a recording of such speed, not like the CCR that took too long to record it, it was always pure estimated speeds...
Anyday i would take the Vector over the F1... the F1 sucks and is overrated...
as nth says, its a great engine in a crappy body...

and no one really cares about top speed, thats just for fanboys, specially mclaren ones
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:58 PM   #28
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actually, i said "crappy chassis"

you'd think that race engineers could've made a responsive chassis with no budget in mind....

the Vector's engineers even added torsion bars to make the engine's torque keep the car ground-bound.... and an incredibly responsive chassis... but somewhat numb steering.
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Old 05-11-2006, 11:27 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by bmuller
^^"crappy body"-enough said. It takes more than just a spectacular engine to be a great car, or am I mistaken?
no, you're right, thats why the F1 is far from being an spectacular car...
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Old 05-11-2006, 11:32 PM   #30
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McLaren F1 = LeMan's winner
Veyron = ?
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