09-25-2006, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattk
^What exactly are you trying to prove in the pictures?
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Beginning of 2nd lap, Alonso overtakes Heidfeld braking late and going wide through the chicane. Then he didnīt gave the position back to Heidfeld,so in that situation a penalty of 1 drive through Pit lane must occur.
Perhaps Alonso invented a easy and illegal new way of overtaking without penalization... 
Note that if Alonso didnīt brake late ,he woldnīt be able to overtake Heidfeld,and that is what the images I posted before prove. 
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09-25-2006, 06:41 AM
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T5 heidfield also "jumped" the chicane so relax man!!, And im Sure Alonso did on purpose to see what FIA would made LOL!!
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09-25-2006, 01:36 PM
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The FIA are extremely bad at what they do and usually manage to make completely the wrong discission!
I hadn't seen the Monza race, but that "blocking" is absolutely absurd, in no way was Massa hindered by the car in front.
The whole mass damper thing is a joke, just because Ferrari couldn't get theirs to work as well. Compared to Ferrari's obviously illegal brake ducts, which make around 50kg downforce.
Don't get me wrong Schumacher is an awesome driver, who ever comapred him to Villeneuve........What??? Villeneuve was probably the least worthy F1 world champion ever!
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09-25-2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
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Originally Posted by bultaco_metralla
T5 heidfield also "jumped" the chicane so relax man!!, And im Sure Alonso did on purpose to see what FIA would made LOL!!
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Heidfeld didn't jumped the chicane, that's the point |
100% Correct
Actually, if he had driven over the chicane as Alonso did, then there wouldn't be any problem... but Heidfeld just came back to the track so slowly that even Button overtook him if I'm not wrong... or almost! 
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Button was already at the front of both before the corner.
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09-25-2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by caneswell
The whole mass damper thing is a joke, just because Ferrari couldn't get theirs to work as well. Compared to Ferrari's obviously illegal brake ducts, which make around 50kg downforce.
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Many teams were running mass dampers, it wasn't just Ferrari and Renault. Either way, if other teams were running them as well, then they (yes that includes Ferrari) would also have to rethink the suspension just as Renault did, so there is really nothing unfair about that.
As for the rear wheel discs, Toyota and Toro Rosso were also running the ducts during the same race where Ferrari debuted theirs. So again, it wasn't just Ferrari.
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09-27-2006, 05:18 AM
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