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fsandys · 12-04-2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

... reminds me of the Cayman

And that is not enough to make you NOT want it to be built?

Is for me!!!

chest3r · 12-04-2006, 06:46 PM

They might say it's not gonna be built but now I'm sure it will

Wanna see why it reminds you of the Cayman ??

Someone has been playing with a F599 and a Cayman

fsandys · 12-04-2006, 07:11 PM

LOL that's unquestionable!

(You're sure it WILL be built?

)

chest3r · 12-04-2006, 07:22 PM

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

TopGearNL · 12-04-2006, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by chest3r

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

So well found!!

fsandys is owned 8)

TopGearNL · 12-04-2006, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

Originally Posted by chest3r

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

Ferrari has already said that they are not producing any entry level car anytime soon... but then - what was that F430-based test mule we've seen around here?

F430CS may be?

Lets hope so

fsandys · 12-04-2006, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by chest3r

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

Yep, I agree but you said now you are sure they WILL build it at the top of your post, I wondered if you knew something I didn't!

As for hearing from Ferrari, we have apparently, they've denied it more than once!

fsandys · 12-04-2006, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by TopGearNL

Originally Posted by chest3r

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

So well found!!

fsandys is owned 8)

Eh? I was questioning this line...

Originally Posted by chest3r

They might say it's not gonna be built but now I'm sure it will

Not saying that it would be built, I think and hope the opposite!

Anyway, I think the meaning has been lost a little now!

MC12 · 12-04-2006, 07:55 PM

Oh well i hope it isnt built we dont need another entry level ferrari because we already have the f430 :roll:

chest3r · 12-04-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by fsandys

Originally Posted by chest3r

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum

fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something

Yep, I agree but you said now you are sure they WILL build

It's just a feeling

fsandys · 12-05-2006, 07:45 AM

I really hope you're wrong!

blue8 · 12-06-2006, 11:57 AM

from evo

Ferrari’s Dino reborn
06th December 2006
Ferrari Dino 420

Unlike the classic original, the newcomer will get a front-mounted V8. The unit is expected to be an all-aluminum 90-degree 4.2-litre unit with around 480bhp
It's the supercar scoop of the year! Auto Express has had exclusive access to insider details and can now reveal all the details of the Italian legend’s most important new model of the decade. Yes, the Dino is back!

These pictures show the new Ferrari 420 Dino, which our sources in Italy have confirmed will go on sale in 2010. Despite being conceived more than two years ago, the whole project only got the green light in September, and is scheduled to be unveiled at a major motor show in 2009.

Taking the latter part of its name from Enzo Ferrari’s son, our contacts are confident that the eventual title will be ‘420 Dino’, with the number referring to the V8 engine’s size.

Back in Italy, one fierce debate is still raging between Ferrari, Pininfarina – the car’s designer – and Ferrari’s owner, Fiat. While all indicators still lean toward the Dino being a coupé-cabriolet with a folding hard-top, some bosses would prefer to launch the entry-level model as a berlinetta hard-top GTB first, followed soon after by a targa GTS.

This would follow the trend set by the 246 Dino GT and GTS from 1968 and 1971, and the 308 GTB and GTS from 1975 and 1977.

Whatever is chosen, annual Dino production is figured to be anywhere between 3,500 and 5,000 cars, and Ferrari has actively sought partners to help lower and spread out the massive manufacturing costs. One company involved is aluminium specialist Alcoa, who will be making the spaceframe chassis in a new facility in Modena, Italy. The outer shell will be constructed from carbon fibre.

The new Dino started life as a Maserati in 2004. However, Ferrari’s then sister firm changed its plans, deciding to develop a luxurious Quattroporte-based coupé to rival the Mer*cedes CL instead. So Ferrari adopted the chassis and technology for the Dino.

Unlike the classic original, the newcomer will get a front-mounted V8. The unit is expected to be an all-aluminum 90-degree 4.2-litre unit with around 480bhp.

Inside, the Dino will be the first Ferrari to get standard-fit satellite navigation. The cabin promises to be practical, and alongside the carbon fibre trim shown, an aluminium finish will also be available. Transmission options haven’t been confirmed, but the paddleshifters are likely to control an automated manual.

Aimed squarely at Porsche’s 911 Turbo and Aston Martin’s V8 Vantage, the Dino will be priced between £82,000 and £90,000. This will make the Ferrari badge more accessible, but will also leave room for the F430 to move upmarket. We can also reveal plans to give that model a 550bhp 5.0-litre V10 by the end of 2008. An all-new replacement for the F430 is also already on the drawing board, and is scheduled for 2010.

- i know that a couple of days ago, ferrari announced that there are no plans to build the dino, then this article comes out... i'm really not sure what to think now. it's good to hear that the f430 is going to receive a power boost. but if they choose to pursue that in 2008, by then, 550bhp would be 'normal' and rather weak (?)

bmagni · 12-06-2006, 01:35 PM

I don't think Ferrari has the capacity to produce 5000 units of the same car a year, and the whole shell made of carbon fibre for an entry level sounds incoherent...

bmagni · 12-07-2006, 12:45 AM

Ok so the insiders say that Ferrari is really producing the Dino mainly for two reasons. One so they can reduce the waiting list and secondly to use the remaining capacity of the Modena factory, that is capable of producing 15000 cars, but they only produce 6000 because of the not so great demand of Maseratis.

The engine will be a a 4.2 V8 derived from the Maserati, and it won't be too complex so they reduce costs. At the same time Maserati will get a 4.7 with 450 to up to 500 hp, and the F430 getting a 4.5 with 520 hp.

Also some say the "Dino" will be a 2 seater Maserati to compete with Porsche and that the bigger Maseratis will compete with Aston Martin.

If theres so much deal about this its because something is happening... what ? I guess we won't know until its officially released

Mattk · 12-07-2006, 02:14 AM

Hmm, they've been talking about this for so long... So finally, they'll be building it in some way, shape, or form.