motor

ae86_16v · 01-01-2006, 09:54 PM

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...95#post1207595

My buddy purchased a new 2006 M5. Against his better judgement. He owned a 540 sport before and knew the horrible service. But the advertised speed of the New M5 lured him.

I few weeks ago BMNA sent him a letter letting him know there is a problem with the Vanos Oil Line leaking. He called his dealer and they told him there is nothing they could do about it. And not to worry. Wait until it is an official recall. So he went with this advise.

He slowly broke it in and had the silly 1200 service done. At that point he asked them to fix the line problem and the dealer said don't worry about it. Well the car is was running and he was driving it hard last night and BOOM! oil everywhere!!! Line burst. He was righjt around the corner and he was able to pull it into his garage. This morning there was a puddle of oil in his garage. He called the dealer(Princeton) and they are sending a flatbed over. Now here is the funny part. They tell him the new hose is on 3-4 week b/o. My buddy went nuts and all of sudden they claimed they could get it overnight! Next funny thing was they had no loaner for him. The dealer said they were out of them(I wonder why!!!??)

He went bananas and the dealer finally agreed to rent him a Enterprise Rent a Junk. Funny, buy a car for 92k, get a 20k rental to drive around in. Sorry, I love the active seats, but obviously BMW will never have their sh*t together like the other dealers. Infiniti, Jaguar and MB all bend over backwards to serve their customers. BMW could seriously care less!!

ZfrkS62 · 01-01-2006, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by ae86_16v

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?p=1207595#post1207595

My buddy purchased a new 2006 M5. Against his better judgement. He owned a 540 sport before and knew the horrible service. But the advertised speed of the New M5 lured him.

I few weeks ago BMNA sent him a letter letting him know there is a problem with the Vanos Oil Line leaking. He called his dealer and they told him there is nothing they could do about it. And not to worry. Wait until it is an official recall. So he went with this advise.

He slowly broke it in and had the silly 1200 service done. At that point he asked them to fix the line problem and the dealer said don't worry about it. Well the car is was running and he was driving it hard last night and BOOM! oil everywhere!!! Line burst. He was righjt around the corner and he was able to pull it into his garage. This morning there was a puddle of oil in his garage. He called the dealer(Princeton) and they are sending a flatbed over. Now here is the funny part. They tell him the new hose is on 3-4 week b/o. My buddy went nuts and all of sudden they claimed they could get it overnight! Next funny thing was they had no loaner for him. The dealer said they were out of them(I wonder why!!!??)

He went bananas and the dealer finally agreed to rent him a Enterprise Rent a Junk. Funny, buy a car for 92k, get a 20k rental to drive around in. Sorry, I love the active seats, but obviously BMW will never have their sh*t together like the other dealers. Infiniti, Jaguar and MB all bend over backwards to serve their customers. BMW could seriously care less!!

:roll: it's always someone's buddy.

I highly, highly doubt they told him not to worry about it. As usual something got left out in the transfer from the source to this retard :roll:

This Service Measure is only about 1-2 weeks old, and there was no ay the dealer could have known that the part was on backorder. Give me a few minutes and i'll post the bulletin here.

*edit* Ok, i can't find the bulletin so i think it was just a mesage from BMWNA about it when i heard about this, so i think the bulletin will be following within the next few days, i hope. I'll do some checking tomorrow.

RC45 · 01-01-2006, 11:49 PM

Sounds about right - the car is overpriced, overhyped and sold by BMW North America - not BMW Germany

ZfrkS62 · 01-02-2006, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

Sounds about right - the car is overpriced, overhyped and sold by BMW North America - not BMW Germany

>Watches RC come in from left field<

BMWNA has to translate the info they get from Germany and post it on the DCSnet system. They also have to set the marketing strategy for the US instead of the rest of the world.

The only thing NA is having to do with the M5 is the development of the 6 spd manual box for the North American market.

RC45 · 01-02-2006, 12:20 AM

Looks like the m5 is about to go the way of the M3... blowing up as they com off the boat

Technology for technology ake is never a good idea... resale value for this model will be in the crapper if these fail like this - will be HUGE bills for out of warranty repairs..

ZfrkS62 · 01-02-2006, 12:25 AM

nah. It's just one steel braided hose that has to handle 140 BAR oil pressure to the VANOS units

By the time this thing is out of warranty, the problems will have been ironed out.

And none of this is tech for techs sake. maybe individually it seems like it, but once it's all together, you see it's purpose.

besides, it's not like Chevy hasn't ever had it's problems

as i heard it from a tech in AZ: "If it's a GM and it doesn't leak oil, then it doesn't run"

twboy1999 · 01-02-2006, 01:01 AM

they wont change the oil line, until it fails,
even though the dealer know alot of car have this problem, and will be having this problem

ZfrkS62 · 01-02-2006, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by twboy1999

they wont change the oil line, until it fails,
even though the dealer know alot of car have this problem, and will be having this problem

It will turn into a Service Measure or recall to replace it on the next visit if the probem gets really bad.

They might update it from the steel braid to the full metal line. Which would explain the 3-4 week backorder.

TransAm · 01-02-2006, 01:38 AM

As JC said in the test between the S2000 and the TR6 (one of his recent DVDs):

Not one... not one VTEC system has ever gone wrong.

Now I am of course assuming that the 140bar oil flow in question is at that pressure for the VANOS system... I know that VTEC works on oil pressure to engage the fun cam

ZfrkS62 · 01-02-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by ae86_16v

I remember I drove up to Berkeley's Weatherford dealership in my 4Runner, couldn't get any help at all. When I drove up in my M3, the sales people were mauling me to trade up. . . bullshit.

Now now. Let's stay on track. All sales people are slimy and shallow. Let's not lump them in with the serice dept.

Besides, it's not like California is the best place to not be judged by the car you drive

RC45 · 01-02-2006, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

as i heard it from a tech in AZ: "If it's a GM and it doesn't leak oil, then it doesn't run"

See - it's always "some one I know"...

The one thing I can tell you that the LSx series of engines does NOT do is leak any oil.. at all..

ZfrkS62 · 01-02-2006, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by RC45

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

as i heard it from a tech in AZ: "If it's a GM and it doesn't leak oil, then it doesn't run"

See - it's always "some one I know"...

The one thing I can tell you that the LSx series of engines does NOT do is leak any oil.. at all..

I always believed it, just never heard it put so right

You can't tell me that the Corvette hasn't had it's issues though. As long as the OBD regulations get tighter, emisisons control technology is going to get more complicated and therefore troublesome.

RC45 · 01-02-2006, 04:19 AM

I solved all emmisions issues with overlap...

dangerously_cool · 01-02-2006, 10:01 AM

This doesn't surprise me. My friend's dad is a car nut. He has 2 BMW's and 2 Benzes. Their 330i went in for a service 5k after the warranty was up, and the dealer came back telling him that there were some things wrong with the car. They wanted something on the order of 7k to fix it. He went apeshit and ended up paying 3k.

Thought they gave him an X3 as a rental.

TransAm · 01-02-2006, 11:33 AM

^ That sucks. I don't suppose there is any way he could have upgraded to the 7/100 warranty? No car, let alone a 330i, should need 7k worth of work at 53000 miles.

Originally Posted by RC45

The one thing I can tell you that the LSx series of engines does NOT do is leak any oil.. at all..

They'll burn a little bit on a long run though, say from FW to El Paso...

My TA never leaked a drop though. The car always felt like something was about to snap or fall off, but it never let me down :good: