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Old 12-16-2005, 07:49 PM   #16
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...unfortunately it (again) really seems to be that we canīt count in the NS for comparison - the playground are again just such unbelievable boring tracks like Fiorano, HHR, Monza,.....whatever - we had that discussion endless times before, but let me correct the one or other thing here

360: 1:15,1
TT: 1:14,6
and i wonīt add here that the TT was 13sec faster............

the other thing that keeps me wondering is why ppl still compare GT3 and CS

imho: GT3 vs 360 and GT3-RS vs 360 CS

but iīm definitely with u Alex, although the NS time should have been better we canīt say the 430 is crap...
itīs just like that - i have quite some insight into industry pool session and therefore i know that Ferrari is more and more at the ring and i also know that they frequently rent workshops as they wonīt show up in Meuspath where all the NS testing equipment and know-how is located, for "i donīt know" reasons which is a bit arrogant imo, so everyone expected a "real good" lap time due to the more testing/experience but well...........
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:00 AM   #17
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:15 AM   #18
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Hah - what a dissapointment. The acceleration was there but it cant even beat a Gallardo at Hockenheim with corsa tyres - that is nothing but horrible. Imagine what the Gallardo SE with corsa tyres and its shorter gear ratios will do to this thing, without even mentioning the 997 Turbo :roll: . Sorry, but the F430 got Gallardowned
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Old 12-17-2005, 05:16 AM   #19
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IMO, Ferraris have never been faster than Porsches, but instead have always offered greater driving pleasure. Each have their own virtues.



I recommend you to watch some Best Motoring videos to see how fing FAST Ferrari`s are compared to Porsche`s
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:25 AM   #20
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ferrari is like honda but without vtec
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:39 AM   #21
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If you think Best Motoring has anything to do with objective testing you have little clue. It's entertaining, but those laps have as much reference value as the Top Gear laptimes. Little to none.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:10 AM   #22
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thanks god for vtec and FERRARI
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:30 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by LotusGT1
If you think Best Motoring has anything to do with objective testing you have little clue. It's entertaining, but those laps have as much reference value as the Top Gear laptimes. Little to none.
AMEN

luckily iīm not the only one seeing it exactly like that :good:
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:42 PM   #24
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st anger you see this :fist:
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:07 PM   #25
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If you think Best Motoring has anything to do with objective testing you have little clue. It's entertaining, but those laps have as much reference value as the Top Gear laptimes. Little to none.

Best Motoring is VERY objective when testing NON Japanese cars .
And I do have a lot of clues , I reccomend the 2000 edition , Battle In Suzuka , and after you watch it , will talk.

Ooooo , actually it won`t be anything to talk about.

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Old 12-17-2005, 01:08 PM   #26
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golfiste what do you think your contribution to this discussion is? looks to me like ur asking for instaban...read the rules no personal attacks, and especially not when there isn't even a reason to be even the slightest bit upset...

as for the time, i too expected ferrari to be faster, and i too cant wait for hte 997TT's time on the 'Ring
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:14 PM   #27
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i was joking sorry ops:
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:19 PM   #28
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ow k i must have a bad sense of humour...
its just in the past we've been having some trouble here at JW with normal discussions turning into flame wars for nothing, so the no personal attack-rule was imposed...
but well lets get back on-topic i dont know that much about best motoring, its bin a couple of years since i last saw anything by them cos the japanes annoys me, but i dont think you can get more objective than SA...1 driver who knows the track absolutely by heart...im assuming he goes flat-out in every car, so then its as comparable as you can reasonably expect a test to be
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:43 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by golfiste
st anger you see this :fist:


canīt follow your sense of humor as well and this is definitely NOT the kind of discussion iīm into
maybe - when uīre done with flaming and joking - u could form a normal english sentence contributing in an adult discussion.

thank you.................
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:55 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by st-anger
and i wonīt add here that the TT was 13sec faster............
Well knowing how the 360 behaves at high speeds I'm not surprised at all that the TT was faster. Talking with some 360 Challenge drives its a sensitive bitch on the limit, it's fast but it takes a lot of fine skill to keep it from snapping on you.
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