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Old 05-27-2005, 02:06 PM   #1
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Default *** 2005 European Grand Prix ***

Race Final
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 59 Winner 6 10
2 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 59 +16.5 secs 1 8
3 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 59 +18.5 secs 7 6
4 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 59 +31.5 secs 12 5
5 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 59 +50.4 secs 10 4
6 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 59 +51.9 secs 9 3
7 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 59 +58.1 secs 5 2
8 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 59 +71.0 secs 4 1
9 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 59 +71.5 secs 14
10 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 59 +95.7 secs 13
11 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 58 +1 Lap 2
12 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 58 +1 Lap 16
13 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 58 +1 Lap 15
14 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 58 +1 Lap 11
15 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 58 +1 Lap 17
16 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 58 +1 Lap 19
17 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 57 +2 Laps 20
18 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 56 +3 Laps 18
Ret 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 33 +26 Laps 8
Ret 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 0 + 59 Laps 3
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:15 PM   #2
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Surprising to see Williams up that far, only really beaten by Mclaren in the second session. Hope they arent going to be running tyres that are too soft, or taking the engine too close to its limit.
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Old 05-28-2005, 05:18 AM   #3
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Third Pratice times from European Grand Prix:

01 F. Alonso Renault 1:30.615
02 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:31.278
03 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:31.573
04 G. Fisichella Renault 1:31.778
05 R. Barrichello Ferrari 1:31.794
06 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:32.097
07 M. Webber Williams 1:32.266
08 N. Heidfeld Williams 1:32.304
09 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:32.432
10 T. Sato BAR 1:32.483
11 J. Button BAR 1:32.501
12 J. Trulli Toyota 1:32.719
13 F. Massa Sauber 1:33.212
14 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:33.365
15 V. Liuzzi Red Bull 1:33.424
16 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 1:33.681
17 J. Villeneuve Sauber 1:33.731
18 T. Monteiro Jordan 1:34.407
19 C. Albers Minardi 1:34.871
20 P. Friesacher Minardi 1:35.067

Final practice times from European Grand Prix:

1 K Raikkonen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes one minute 29.680 seconds
2 JP Montoya (Col) McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.789
3 F Alonso (Spa) Renault 1:29.987
4 G Fisichella (Ita) Renault) 1:30.071
5 J Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:30.552
6 N Heidfeld (Ger) Williams-BMW 1:30.559
7 T Sato (Jpn) BAR-Honda 1:30.645
8 R Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:30.692
9 J Button (GB) BAR-Honda 1:30.773
10 M Schumacher (Ger) Ferrari 1:31.026
11 R Barrichello (Brz) 1:31.449
12 V Liuzzi (Ita) Red Bull-Cosworth 1:31.572
13 M Webber (Aus) Williams-BMW 1:32.054
14 F Massa (Brz) Sauber-Petronas 1:32.079
15 D Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Cosworth 1:32.172
16 J Villeneuve (Cdn) Sauber-Petronas 1:33.140
17 C Albers (Net) Minardi-Cosworth 1:33.977
18 T Monteiro (Por) Jordan-Toyota 1:34.527
19 N Karthikeyan (Ind) Jordan-Toyota 1:34.640
20 P Friesacher (Aut) Minardi 1:35.087

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Raikkonen is on fire ..... I guess it safe to say Ferrari will not be in the front row.
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:15 AM   #4
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Qualifying Results


1 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:30.081

2 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.197

3 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:30.368

4 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:30.700

5 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.890

6 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:31.056

7 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:31.249

8 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:31.392

9 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:31.566

10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:31.585

11 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:32.205

12 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:32.553

13 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:32.594

14 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:32.642

15 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:32.891

16 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:32.926

17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:35.047

18 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:35.954

19 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:36.192

20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:36.239
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Old 05-28-2005, 09:13 AM   #5
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i can hardly believe it! williams is finally back on top!

this is a GREAT year in F1.... the renaults are getting pushed back further and further as thier pace slows :shock:

another suprise? both ferraris in the top 10 as long as they dont fall too far back in traffic, im sure they are both in contention, but i really hope to see a BMW 1/2 this race
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Old 05-28-2005, 09:27 AM   #6
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I expect Kimi to dominate the race, as I am quite sure he will dictate the race from lap 1.
Unfortunately for Nick and MArk the BMW have problems starting. I expect Trulli to make the most of his position at the start.
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Old 05-28-2005, 09:46 AM   #7
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^^

Same, I also expect Kimi to win this easily, unless he gets stuck behind Heidlfeld.

The Williams both did great laps, but like Trulli they seem to be on a lower fuel load, so I doubt they can challenge Kimi. Montoya, I think he has a good chance for second place.

And the Renaults aren't impressive again - doubt they'll make to the Podium.

Ferrari are a bit better now in Qualifying (Bridgestone brought a new tyre for this race), but they're still struggling. Both Rubens and Michael made small mistakes on their laps, but I'm positive that tomorrow they'll be strong.

Should be an interesting race.
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Old 05-28-2005, 10:37 AM   #8
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Should be an interesting race, if everything goes smooth I believe that one of the Ferraris could take 3rd at least, but I really doubt it, Bridgestone has lots of work to do.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:59 AM   #9
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Kimi will win baring any mechanical mishaps and the ferrari will be near if not on the podium. IT'll be a great race. A close one.

BS will come good after about lap 10 or so and then in clean air, MS will do those blistering laps. Just pray he's not stuck behind traffic.

As for me, I'm praying for a Mclaren 1-2 and the retirement of alonso.

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Old 05-29-2005, 09:52 AM   #10
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alonso got lucky

kimi's car was shaking like crazy.. maybe they should have pited... but oh well
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:04 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by twboy1999
maybe they should have pited... but oh well
Don't think so...if kimi want to catch alonso he has to take risks, and considering that it happened in the last laps and he was in first position with several seconds of advantage he took the correct choice IMO.
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:16 AM   #12
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Good race, best so far? Lots of mid pack action, cars running tight.
I think Ferrari did great considering how much time they lost on the T1 accident.

Looking forward to Canada, gotta pack my bags for the trip to Montreal
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:21 AM   #13
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Awesome race, the start was a little bit scary... Ralf fu**ing Alonso again... Heidfield made a very nice race, second making 3 pit stops, like Barrichelo ... Bad luck for Kimmi, he made 3 or 4 tire block that made him have that inlucky accident... Very lucky Sato, Kimmi almost hit him !!! Very near, WOW !!! And A little lucky Alonso that didnt "eat" broken parts of Kimmi's mp4-20... AWESOME RACE !! Now Alonso has 28 points over the second !!!
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:00 AM   #14
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I'll say it again: this stupid tyres rules fucking disgust me. :x

So much for "improving safety"... :roll: Now, on the last laps or either the tyres blow or get worn down the the carcass... Something really bad could have happened to Kimi today (and the B.A.R. who was in front of him)... Tough it was his fault too - many lock-ups and off track excursions. Michelin seem to be pushing the boundaries with their uber soft tyres too.

Anyway, the race was quite good. Alonso was one lucky mofo once again, and Heidfeld drove a good race, but today the Wiliams weren't quite there. Coulthard was fantastic too!

And Ferrari... Well, yet again the luck wasn't with them. Tough a podium is a positive result; and Michael did well too, coming from 17th to 5th. But the car didn't seem to like the 2 stopper strategy, and Michael's tyres suffered from that. Rubens (who was great today), clearly had a more consistent package and his tyres held up better.

Oh well, can't wait for one of my favourite GP's!

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FASTEST LAPS CHART:

Pos Driver Team Lap Average Speed Time

1 Fernando Alonso Renault 44 204.305 1:30.711

2 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 9 203.791 1:30.940

3 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 44 203.594 1:31.028


4 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 9 203.380 1:31.124

5 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 19 202.974 1:31.306

6 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 19 202.537 1:31.503

7 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 47 202.084 1:31.708

8 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 25 202.049 1:31.724

9 Jarno Trulli Toyota 43 201.928 1:31.779

10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 42 201.866 1:31.807

11 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 26 201.686 1:31.889

12 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 20 201.542 1:31.955

13 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 43 201.506 1:31.971

14 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 18 200.725 1:32.329

15 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 41 200.174 1:32.583

16 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 21 198.653 1:33.292

17 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 39 198.370 1:33.425

18 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 18 194.985 1:35.047

19 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 18 193.987 1:35.536
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Old 05-29-2005, 11:50 AM   #15
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That was a interesting race, I didnt think Ferrari had a chance to come third, but they did, amazing stuff. Glad to see kimi got out of that accident alright, lucky those tethers are mandatory, otherwise he could of had a similar result to Senna's accident. Alonso is one lucky bastard!!
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