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Old 12-16-2005, 06:27 AM   #1
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Default F430 Supertest results

NS: 7.55 min
HHR: 1.12,7
0-100: 4.0
0-160: 8.4
0-200: 12.6

car equipped with optional Corsas and CCM
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:49 AM   #2
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i´m a bit dissapointed as i estimated such a time with the std. tires and NOT with the optional Corsas...
with almost 500hp, e-diff and all the other state of the art techs, hmmmm, i´m afraid they still haven´t sortet out their suspension "issues"...
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:54 AM   #3
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^^^ That time can`t be real . Of course the test was made by a german car (very) biased magazine , so.......

Suspension problems ? In my knowledge the Skyhook is the most advanced system available .

Do you know something else ?
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:13 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by RAMMIUS
^^^ That time can`t be real . Of course the test was made by a german car (very) biased magazine , so.......

Suspension problems ? In my knowledge the Skyhook is the most advanced system available .

Do you know something else ?
...the mag will come out tomorrow in germany and i´ll get my copy a day later, this info is from a source of mine who gets the results always some days in advance, the test itself took place when the Radical set the (unofficial) lap record at NS, a buddy of mine was there when HvS testdrove the F430 for the Supertest at NS the second time, at the first attempt there were some problems - don´t know details, a Ferrari technican was there as well, it was NO car from Ferrari Germany but one of Fiorano, with italian plates, a yellow one, on the second occasion, the Radical test day with closed circuit, the weather was perfect - therefor the record from the Radical - so weather-issues cuoldn´t have been the problem...

äähhhmm, don´t know how familiar u´re with SA and the persons behind this mag, incl. chief editor HvS who does all supertests, well i know him in person and he´s definitely one of the few who´re NOT biased on any brand, e.g. i can tell u that HvS loves Ferraris and he used to race Ferrari Challenge - u see - not Porsche Cup

when it´s been AMS or whatever german mag i could have said "probably yes" but not with SA, sorry...

we´ll see when the full test is out - of course will get the mag, scan it and translate the most imp parts - check "mag-scans" the upcomming days...
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:35 AM   #5
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Waiting for the article , or should I say the translation ?

This is gonna be a very interesting read
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Thanks in advance for the scan and the transaltion parts st-anger but it's true that we could have wait an even better time from the F430. 7:55 is not that far from the 997 Carrera S wich is heavier and has 135 bhp less ...
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Interesting.... Although I still can't understand how Porsches can be SO much faster around the ring. Quite frankly, I find it embarrassing for Ferrari to be so far off the pace.

Can't wait for the scan!
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^^^ ditto
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:59 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Originally Posted by nejcdolinsek
Interesting.... Although I still can't understand how Porsches can be SO much faster around the ring. Quite frankly, I find it embarrassing for Ferrari to be so far off the pace.

Can't wait for the scan!
Ferraris are developed at Fiorano, which is a proper racetrack. Porsches are developed at the Nordschleiffe... which is everything but a 'conventional' racetrack
yupppp... totally agree..
if u put a 997s vs a 430 on any track, other than the ring, the 430 will rape it no matter what.. heck, it is faster than gallardo,, and every magazine praise for it's handling
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...i tend to say: let´s wait for the real F430 competitor, the 997 Turbo
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:46 PM   #11
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wow, this is a lot slower then i had expected :shock:

its still definately fast... but when comparing vs. a 996 GT3 (not even the RS) the C5 Z06... the Ferrari isnt anywhere near the level i would've expected with the new manatinio and e-diff... the 430 still has some road manners built into its suspension compared to the hardcore Enzo... but i guess still not enough to make it through NS as fast as it could...

i definately wonder what the problems they were having with the car during the first test, and im looking forward reading the scans. i wonder if its race-tuned suspension is just too stiff?

oh, and im definatley looking forward to the SA supertest of the 997 Turbo
thanks for the heads up
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Hm thats dead slow I couldnt care less but there is absolutly no fucking way it laps only a second faster then the CS All that power at NS....something was wrong.......but oh well
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
Ferrari isnt anywhere near the level i would've expected with the new manatinio and e-diff... up
Well all that shit is useless when you hit the track And I hope they turn every single possible driving aid off when the did the lap.
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Originally Posted by twboy1999
Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Originally Posted by nejcdolinsek
Interesting.... Although I still can't understand how Porsches can be SO much faster around the ring. Quite frankly, I find it embarrassing for Ferrari to be so far off the pace.

Can't wait for the scan!
Ferraris are developed at Fiorano, which is a proper racetrack. Porsches are developed at the Nordschleiffe... which is everything but a 'conventional' racetrack
yupppp... totally agree..
if u put a 997s vs a 430 on any track, other than the ring, the 430 will rape it no matter what.. heck, it is faster than gallardo,, and every magazine praise for it's handling
Oh come on! You can't possibly compare the 997s and the F430... the very fact that you're even doing so shows what a joke Ferrari is around the ring :roll: As st-anger said, the 997 Turbo will be the real competitor, and by the looks of it, its gonna absolutely RAPE the F430. And all this is coming from a diehard Ferrari fan...

And by the looks of it, the F430 still isn't that much (if at all) faster around a "proper" racetrack than any eqivalent Porsche. IMO, Ferraris have never been faster than Porsches, but instead have always offered greater driving pleasure. Each have their own virtues.
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Originally Posted by nejcdolinsek
Oh come on! You can't possibly compare the 997s and the F430... the very fact that you're even doing so shows what a joke Ferrari is around the ring :roll: As st-anger said, the 997 Turbo will be the real competitor, and by the looks of it, its gonna absolutely RAPE the F430. And all this is coming from a diehard Ferrari fan...

And by the looks of it, the F430 still isn't that much (if at all) faster around a "proper" racetrack than any eqivalent Porsche. IMO, Ferraris have never been faster than Porsches, but instead have always offered greater driving pleasure. Each have their own virtues.
Sorry man but thats rubbish.

360 and 996TT where head to head in every single test they did...

360CS was the better in the Vs. GT3 battle.

You write off the 430 just cause of this lap at NS?

whatever :roll:
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