07-20-2004, 04:22 AM
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OMG! No more celica after 2005!
don't know bout u guys, but i surely am disappointed!
the celica has always been one of my dream cars! it's jus beautiful! how can toyota do this?!?!?!?!
read about it here
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7329
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07-20-2004, 05:59 AM
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Dont worry they will make some new models, they are not stupid to cancel all the line of sports cars cause they'll loose too many customers.
I am not a big fan of celica, but I always liked MR type
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07-20-2004, 10:22 AM
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oo no??????
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07-20-2004, 10:39 AM
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I think I will survive. The celica becam a little worse for every new generation..
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07-20-2004, 11:43 AM
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hopefully they will keep selling them in Japan
may be it's time for them to develop a better product
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07-20-2004, 12:20 PM
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they are going to keep selling them in japan. the celica and mr2 have been in a sales decline....but they will bring something over to replace it, and i think the Tc is meant to hold the viod of the celica for now.
they need to bring back the turbo AWD celicas =)
or maybe a retor RWD drive one, cause they have been in productin since the 70s
and the current rumour i heard, which came from a dealer....is toyota is working on a direct competitor to the S2000
so that could be interesting
ill hate to see it go, the celica i think is one fo the best handling FWD cars money can buy, and are pretty good performance wise too, and the Alltrac/GT-fours are awesome.....
i work on 3 or 4 celicas regulary, see my avatar =) the blue one is a 1990 celica turbo alltrac, with a TRD spec turbo, HKS BOV, and a complete custom interior, the red one is my 1988 alltrac turbo, which is in process of being readied for SCCA prorally or rallycross, and the light blue celica at the bottom is a 1994 GT which at one time was one of the few turbo 5SFE celicas roaming the streets (est. 300+ whp) now its currenty receiving a 3SGTE swap while i build the 5SFE stronger for a customer of mine.
its a shame the FWD celicas were often overlooked in the aftermarket world, specifically the 94-99 models, who share the same engine as the camry, and the motor is bulletproof....
but oh well toyota will come back with them, or have something just as great
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07-20-2004, 02:16 PM
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will probley make way for the supra replacment.
imo there is no such thing as a "true" peformance car, when it has FWD!
i hope they bring back the GT4 or a car to reflect toyota's involvment in forumla 1.
PaulGT2164 i would defentley agree with all you're comments.
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07-20-2004, 03:05 PM
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i think they would rather sell a million corollas instead of a few hundred celicas and mr2s.. after all, most of the celica's parts have been donated to the new updated corolla.
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07-20-2004, 03:10 PM
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true, but toyota also cares about making its image more youthful, i think the scion's TC will take the place of the celica for the time being, which is fine, its a cool car, i hope they offer a better handling higher power version (rumour has it they are going to) and the corolla with the 180hp engine, could be quite the fun car if done right =)
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07-20-2004, 03:15 PM
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i guess all the japanese coupes are gone now in the celica price range..except for the the rsx(integra) .
i guess its main long time rival was the honda prelude which retired in 2001..
and mazda and nissan that doesnt have there mx6 and 240sx either, retired in the late 90's......
the celica put on a good fight..
the thing about scion, its only released in US..
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07-20-2004, 03:34 PM
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yeah the celicas main competitor was the prelude, i remember reading that somewhere, and when the prelude died off, the sales of the celica did too
i have a huge collection of 70s and 80s celica posters, its quite a long running car with a ton of heritage, i am glad they still sell them in japan =) one of the things on my list of wants, is to drive a 1994+ GT-FOUR, i drive us spec alltracs often, but the last generation GT FOUR was awesome, 255hp turbo, AWD, and for its time, i believe it was the most advanced AWD system put into a production car, its a shame that they never sold the GT FOURs here after the 5th generation celica body style, so we never got the 6th gen body style gt-four (known as the ST205)
not to mention the celicas massive rally career, (at least 2 championships, and over 38 rally wins) and the fact most of the top drivers once drove for toyota.
i hope that toyota will once again offer a turbo awd sporty coupe over here. the new TC shares the same chassis as the jap spec caldina, which is available in a AWD form...so we can only hope i guess, and given toyotas familiarty with AWD systems, and mazda joining the fray in the EVO and STi world, i think toyota will offer something similiar, because in other parts of the world the STi and the EVO are selling like mad and have a huge following, so i predict the same will happen here, and the amount of popularity that the WRC and ProRally is gaining here in the states will only make AWD turbo cars even more popular
its like the return of the muscle car.....saloons, with mad power, with a modern twist
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07-20-2004, 04:03 PM
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the only celica taht i was ever interested in was the Alltrac
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07-20-2004, 05:27 PM
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Thats very sad....actually I never liked the Celica coz it was FWD....the MR2 was a crazy
car....anyway they are very popular worldwide, especially the Celica....
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07-20-2004, 06:46 PM
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jsut a side note that mr2s and celicas share mechanical components from 1990-present.
stuff like 5sfe, 3sge, 3sgte, 1zzge, etc.
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