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Old 10-11-2005, 09:36 AM   #16
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I'll gladly donate. The merchandise idea is a good one too, I seen a few sites which do that and sell mouse mats, cups, clothing, and obviously car stickers and that. Also you could have more than one plan put in place. Like a Donation scheme, a JW shop, and maybe a JW bonus account? where for a fee your could have your own custom title, fancy graphics for you name. I think a subscription might lose the entire feel of JW, because then we might lose current UL/DL members and Its that community people want. So yeah, I think a way to give money, and a way members can get something for there money is the best bet.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:43 AM   #17
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Thanks to Jabba, TT, Dan and all the other fellas that keep this site running, I dont know much about maintain a site, but it can not be easy with such an active user group such as this. I am happy to donate, a worthy cause for sure!
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:54 AM   #18
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Make donations easy and safe - and you have one happy donator here
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:57 AM   #19
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Umm, maybe girl scout cookies . J/king. Merchandise isn't a bad idea, there are a few sites on the web that will help you set it up. I don't know what kind of returns you could expect from it though.

Paypal I think charges a 2% fee. . . but over all I had pretty good experience with it.

But I'll gladly donate to help out.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:36 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by frodefe
Make donations easy and safe - and you have one happy donator here
any donations will be via paypal, its easy and safe for end users, and as we already have a system in place for it the perfect solution - sure they charge a fee but so does any other payment gateway system so there's no gain by changing to an alternate system

as for merchandising, that's been looked at before and although its a good idea a few places got scared by the name 'jabbasworld' and refused because of copyright worries.. I guess we could change the site name then that won't be a problem, but I think that its something that probably has to go on the back burner for the moment


upgrade options, well there's only 2 choices really:
#1 - move to a similar spec server as we have now but with 100mb full duplex network connection.. this would solve the network issues we keep having and allow downloads at an unlimited speed to everyone
#2 - move to higher spec server with 100mbit network connection, curing the connection issues and leaving more room for future improvements and growth of the site, and curing the server load problems.

personally I'd really like it to be #2, for 2 main reasons.. first I dont want to have to move everything to a new server more times than necessary, and 2nd and most importantly, as you've probably noticed once we get a few people online the page generation times go up quite a bit, and ATM its possible for one person requesting a 'heavy' page many times in a short period of time to knock the server over so no one can get any pages .. a faster cpu / more ram and better hard drives would really help in this area

as it is I already optimised a lot of code to help and it has, although unless I strip out a lot of the site features (not going to happen) we will still sometimes have a server load problem and that isn't going away until we get a faster server
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:47 AM   #21
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voluntary donations would be a great idea but I think dingo idea is a good one.. DL/UL club should at least have some kind of a fee.. I know most of them have some trouble but some can help out and I am up for it..

Maybe you won't like this idea a lot jabba but it's one way to get people paying is that you offer some new member who are only here for the video a chance to download the video by paying a fee and I am sure you will get few..this idea should be combined with the above..
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:54 AM   #22
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Well if it ever becomes a pay to DL vid site i'd be off straight away, not my kind of thing. Volutary donations to improve JW are quite another thing, I know there are alot of ideas for the future development. I'm not however comfortable with this all being focused on the vid side, JW is about so much more than that and i find it hypocritical considering our previous opposition to accepting donations to effectively aid piracy on other sites :bah:

What can i say i'm not going to bullshit. I was going to leave this topic alone but suggestions of a pay service i can't leave, some members are unable for whatever reason to donate/ pay, does that make them any less valauable to the site???
On the other hand it is totally unfair that Jabba should continue to support something totally himself which i'm sure has grown far more than he could have ever expected. I'm sure we could quite easily cover it with a bit of couch change each per month from a good proportion of the core members. Sucks that those who give most to the site already have to also donate but i'd rather have that than ecourage fucking leeching arseholes.
 
Old 10-11-2005, 10:59 AM   #23
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I'm of those who want to pay a contribution to JW by paypal and to buy JW stuffs like t-shirts and stickers. I will find that idea normal in the interest of the best car forum on the Web.


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Old 10-11-2005, 11:06 AM   #24
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which i'm sure has grown far more than he could have ever expected.
Thats for sure...its basically at what level you can afford to run something for free.

Krazy Hawaiians forum is limited to about 15 members because he runs it from his own PC...but at least its free...obviously thats not going to develop into much though.

My level is as it is today...but it either stops...or continues to improve and move forward....but I will need some help with the funding to take it to the next level I am afraid.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:12 AM   #25
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i just saw this topic.. like many of the member, i am surprise how long the site has been running priviately

now..donation is a great idea.. but not everyone is going to donate, even the people in the download group,, for sure majority of the people not in the donwload group would not donate..

so my suggestion is that,, yess creat a donation, and maybe put on 1 ad or 2 ad max.. to support the site.. pretty sure the donation it self, would not be enough to run the site.. this way. we could get some advertising money and donation money, without the site getting full of ads
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:13 AM   #26
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Jabba I totally empathise with your position, i dont think anyone ever expected JW to get this big, but with the rate of growth, this situation was inevitable.
Happy to make a donation here.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:17 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by twboy1999
i just saw this topic.. like many of the member, i am surprise how long the site has been running priviately

now..donation is a great idea.. but not everyone is going to donate, even the people in the download group,, for sure majority of the people not in the donwload group would not donate..

so my suggestion is that,, yess creat a donation, and maybe put on 1 ad or 2 ad max.. to support the site.. pretty sure the donation it self, would not be enough to run the site.. this way. we could get some advertising money and donation money, without the site getting full of ads
I hate ads and thats why there wont be any.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:20 AM   #28
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have we tried purging the entirely inactive members from the database? probably..i always think of the obvious way to late

if we really wanted to show donating members, we could change their name color to blue or something.

Dan, how much do you think option 2 would cost?
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:23 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
have we tried purging the entirely inactive members from the database? probably..i always think of the obvious way to late
that woudnt really help at all
 
Old 10-11-2005, 11:25 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Dan
as you've probably noticed once we get a few people online the page generation times go up quite a bit, and ATM its possible for one person requesting a 'heavy' page many times in a short period of time to knock the server over so no one can get any pages .. a faster cpu / more ram and better hard drives would really help in this area

as it is I already optimised a lot of code to help and it has, although unless I strip out a lot of the site features (not going to happen) we will still sometimes have a server load problem and that isn't going away until we get a faster server
I didn't see any slow load ... but I am on 56k so there is no difference between a slow and a fast loading page


Originally Posted by AL123
What can i say i'm not going to bullshit. I was going to leave this topic alone but suggestions of a pay service i can't leave, some members are unable for whatever reason to donate/ pay, does that make them any less valauable to the site???
I am sure it wasn't the idea no service to pay, if you want to donate then it's ok but (I suppose) nobody will know it except Jabba and admins ... that would be fair I think : giving the total but not the donaters or even not giving the total I don't know. ...
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