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1zippo1 · 08-01-2006, 05:50 AM

I'm writing my thesis about the automotive industry and I came by this IMO very cool overview of the major players in de sector. I thought some of you might be interested in this overview.

I knew about 99% of these connections but I was surprised to see that hyundai en DaimlerChrysler were so closly linked. Is this correct??

And I think the connection between BMW & DaimlerChrysler is a mistake.

mendocino · 08-01-2006, 06:19 AM

yep IMO the link between bmw and D-C should be a thin one.

Very interesting chart btw and best of luck for your thesis!

1zippo1 · 08-01-2006, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by mendocino

yep IMO the link between bmw and D-C should be a thin one.

Very interesting chart btw and best of luck for your thesis!

thx Mendocino!! I hope I get a 10/20, that's more then enough for me.

If I don't pass I can't look for a job and move in with my girlfriend. So I really hope I succeed.

mendocino · 08-02-2006, 02:46 PM

Finger crossed dude!

I'm exaclty on the same stage as you are (looking for a house with my gf):
I just finished my studies in july, big weight off my shoulder!!
Can't wait to get my first paycheck

I'm sure you'll get more than a 10, as automobiles are a hobby for you and spending time studying them shoudn't be too boring... btw what is exactly the name of your studies?

5vz-fe · 08-02-2006, 02:52 PM

I thought fuji heavy industry owns subaru.....it's Toyota?

TNT · 08-02-2006, 03:59 PM

cool graph how old is this?

1zippo1 · 08-03-2006, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by mendocino

Finger crossed dude!

I'm exaclty on the same stage as you are (looking for a house with my gf):
I just finished my studies in july, big weight off my shoulder!!
Can't wait to get my first paycheck

I'm sure you'll get more than a 10, as automobiles are a hobby for you and spending time studying them shoudn't be too boring... btw what is exactly the name of your studies?

I'm studying "handelswetenschappen" = rough translated, business science in Brussels. But I've done and finished an IT graduate course before that.

Originally Posted by TNT

cool graph how old is this?

It's from april 2006 ... I need to keep things up to date in my thesis, so plz if you know anything that has changed since then...

Shinigami · 08-03-2006, 08:16 AM

Lovely graph, saved for future

I do wonder about the BMW and Mercedes connection. I would love to see closer sharing of technology and business practices between the two companies.

Kiran · 08-03-2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by bmw06m6

I'm not to sure about this graph, I do know for a fact that GM and BMW have a very tight relationship, swapping parts, collaborating design, they are very different companies but work together a lot (some have wondered for years if GM didn’t own BMW).

As for as Daimler BMW, a while back they formed the alliance to build more efficient vehicles but that also included GM, that was that engine last spring that the three debuted.

Mercedes and BMW are two very different companies, to see them work together; I have a hard time seeing.

A BMW Toyota relationship, ha do Americans like the French? I don’t think so. BMW has had lawsuits on Toyota for the last 20 years, for the Japanese stealing engine patents to design patents.

Also GM owns KIA, yet they are on opposite ends of the chart.

The Subaru thing is wrong because they’ve joined up with Suzuki.

How old is this thing?

you're right that it's not entirely accurate. But I'm not sure about GM still owning KIA. Just check this: http://www.gm.com/company/investor_i...rataglance.pdf

and Toyota does have a big share in Subaru:
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...res-to-toyota/

The big line between Daimlerchrysler & BMW should be a thin line:
http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4553/

Kiran · 08-03-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by goodduck

can someone translate what the diff lines stand for
very interesting diagram

- a brand in a square is the main brand, like for instance General Motors
- a fat line without an arrow means that the brand is part of the main brand connected to it
- a fat line with an arrow means one brand owns a large number of stocks of the other brand
- a dotted line is a joint venture = a sort of alliance, mostly with asian companies
- a thin line = an alliance

Sir_GT · 08-05-2006, 04:03 PM

That's from Car magazine. 2004.

PaulGT2164 · 08-05-2006, 05:02 PM

gm doenst own kia, they own daewoo, which manufactures the chevy Aveo car for GM

acmarttin · 08-05-2006, 05:13 PM

Did I hear correctly on Top Gear that Rover went out of business, too?

1zippo1 · 08-09-2006, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Sir_GT

That's from Car magazine. 2004.

Do you have that magazine and if so, can you plz scan and upload it...

with the article about it if possible!

the weird thing is that in 2004 MG Rover still existed, so it should have been mentioned if it's that old, no?

I've allready emailed the author of the article about his source but he doesn't reply

And the crappy thing is that it's an article from a mens magazine, that I can't mention as a legitemate source in my thesis.

r2r · 08-11-2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kiran

Originally Posted by goodduck

can someone translate what the diff lines stand for
very interesting diagram

- a brand in a square is the main brand, like for instance General Motors
- a fat line without an arrow means that the brand is part of the main brand connected to it
- a fat line with an arrow means one brand owns a large number of stocks of the other brand
- a dotted line is a joint venture = a sort of alliance, mostly with asian companies
- a thin line = an alliance

Thanks for the translation Kiran.

This just shows that nowdays everybody is somehow related to somebody else. It's also interesting to see that Porsche seems to be the most independent company in this chart.