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05-18-2004, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blah
No hes talking about the V6 Caddy with the CTS Uniform, but not the CTS-V muscles. But the Accord V6 in Sedan form is faster than a CTS in V6 form.
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255HP
3,509 lbs.
240HP
3384lbs
about 125lbs difference and 15HP. one is rwd and one is fwd.
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05-18-2004, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
Originally Posted by blah
No hes talking about the V6 Caddy with the CTS Uniform, but not the CTS-V muscles. But the Accord V6 in Sedan form is faster than a CTS in V6 form.
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255HP
3,509 lbs.
240HP
3384lbs
about 125lbs difference and 15HP. one is rwd and one is fwd.
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one is rwd : pure pleasure of sporty RWD !
one is fwd : Fuckin torque steer and understeer FWD !
According to the data of Carpoint (MSN Bill Gates shit), the CTS is quicker than Accord V6. In addition, the CTS beat the Accord in all categories.
Cadillac CTS - V6 3.6L (255 hp) 5A + ABS
6.71 sec 0 - 60 Time
15.15 sec 1/4 Mile Time
94.40 mph 1/4 Mile Speed
139 ft Braking 60 - 0
Honda Accord sedan EX - V6 3.0L (240 hp) 5A + ABS
6.84 sec 0 - 60 Time
15.34 sec 1/4 Mile Time
95.70 mph 1/4 Mile Speed
144 ft Braking 60 - 0
I leave you the pleasure to prove me the opposite.
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05-18-2004, 02:00 PM
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Well - considering the CTS is a GM product - it is destined to devalue like a mutha fucka and be frought with issues...
So if I was in the market for a V6 family econobox, the Accord is the obvious winner.
I would not buy a V6 CTS for love or money.
As I say - the only redeeming quality of the CTS-V is the engine... nothing else.
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05-18-2004, 02:01 PM
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I really don't like those STS's and DTS's and grandpa mobiles too much, and I hope they don't subject poor Europe to them...
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05-18-2004, 02:11 PM
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Me, this is again simpler, I would not buy the CTS, nor the Accord.
In this category I would take the Infiniti G35 Sedan, 3.5L 260 hp V6, with the 6-speed manual.
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05-18-2004, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Well - considering the CTS is a GM product - it is destined to devalue like a mutha fucka and be frought with issues...
So if I was in the market for a V6 family econobox, the Accord is the obvious winner.
I would not buy a V6 CTS for love or money.
As I say - the only redeeming quality of the CTS-V is the engine... nothing else.
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I don't know that chassis is quite well sorted.
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05-18-2004, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
Originally Posted by RC45
Well - considering the CTS is a GM product - it is destined to devalue like a mutha fucka and be frought with issues...
So if I was in the market for a V6 family econobox, the Accord is the obvious winner.
I would not buy a V6 CTS for love or money.
As I say - the only redeeming quality of the CTS-V is the engine... nothing else.
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I don't know that chassis is quite well sorted.
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Well - yes, the handleling goes hand in hand with the engine tuning - what I am getting at is that GM produces shit by the truck load... and that all around, GM cars general suck - in quality, resale and looks.
There are a few exceptions to this rule... one of which I currently drive, and one I will get in a couple years...
Other than that they are the Wal-Mart of the car world... selling as much shit to as many people as quickly as possible..
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05-18-2004, 05:38 PM
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from what i got off car stats the Accord is quicker.
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05-18-2004, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by blah
from what i got off car stats the Accord is quicker.
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I guess it would depend on the driver, conditions etc. alot of my sources say teh CTS.
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05-18-2004, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
Originally Posted by blah
from what i got off car stats the Accord is quicker.
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I guess it would depend on the driver, conditions etc. alot of my sources say teh CTS.
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This is what is has come to?
Bench-racing an Accord against a Caddy....
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05-18-2004, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Originally Posted by SilverPhoenix
Originally Posted by blah
from what i got off car stats the Accord is quicker.
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I guess it would depend on the driver, conditions etc. alot of my sources say teh CTS.
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This is what is has come to?
Bench-racing an Accord against a Caddy....
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i have a 90 sedan deville,
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05-18-2004, 07:43 PM
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so what the hell is this!?! its not even an STS. lol... its still a CTS body, so whats the point of it?
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05-18-2004, 07:54 PM
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actually that is the new STS they are making all their vehicles look similar now if you haven't noticed and whoever mentioned an ETC-V they haven't made the Eldorado for a year or so now. And RC45 the transmission is a good quality in the CTS-V
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05-18-2004, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
actually that is the new STS they are making all their vehicles look similar now if you haven't noticed and whoever mentioned an ETC-V they haven't made the Eldorado for a year or so now. And RC45 the transmission is a good quality in the CTS-V
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I don't remember saying it wasn't - but even the Tremec in my car was subject to GM cost cutting.. they substituted the steel shift forks for cheap aluminium ones...
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05-18-2004, 08:34 PM
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did you change them out or leave them? you said the only redeaming guality was the engine, so I figured
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