06-17-2005, 10:41 AM
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LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??
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06-17-2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by saadie
LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??
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I have the full S1, and will be buying the full S2 as soon as it is released on the 24th
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06-17-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by saadie
LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??
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Full version (S2alpha) will be out 24th June.
No offence but 1.46 is really slow... that's with GTI at Blackwood, right? You need some practise 
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06-17-2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by saadie
LFS S2 is awsome .. far better then the first version .....
and now tht i got a steering wheel its even more awsome .....
my fastest is 1:46 with under steer under steer and more under steer !
just wondering ..... dose anyone ahve the full version ??
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Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
I tried LFS1 and it has such a "fake" over-simulated feel to it. If tyres in real life had as little grip and cars were as unpredictably under-steering in the real world, the freewyas would have piles of econo-boxes at the end of every off ramp.
The net result was you end up having to learn the nuances of "playing the controller" rather than driving the car - plus the entire install was not as plug-n-play as it could have been.
S - is LFS2 an improvement - or have y'all just mastered the interface better than I could... 
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06-17-2005, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
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The best! S1 was good but S2 is better in every way.
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06-17-2005, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tege
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Originally Posted by RC45
Honestly... is this LFS really that good?
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The best! S1 was good but S2 is better in every way. |
what the man says
The cars are shockingly realistic. you have the spritely little GTI, that like any small, high powerd front wheel drive car, will plough straight on in corners if you dont ease off a bit. As for the rear wheel drive GT's you jsut have to learn to control the car. If you have a decent wheel, pedals and clutch set up then sure it takes practice, but with time you can really learn to controll it, and before you know it, you will be slipping it into corners at 60mph in 3rd with the back end sat neatly out of line. Modulating the throttle and clutch a little to keep it all tidy and you can have a howl.
Just spend a bit of time learning how the cars work and youll find that it is one of the best, if not THE best racing simulator of all time.
I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way, but for now, LFS does the job more than adequately - not only is it accurate, and immensly rewarding if you spend the time, it can also be instantly fun with just a keyboard and a few minutes to spare.
Apologies for the essay
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06-17-2005, 11:20 AM
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^^^ in other words it is still about mastering the PC input device rather than the vehicle? 
Because I can tell you, when throwing my parents FWD cars around on "unauthorized mid-night jaunts" you can get a surprising amount of grip from even street tyres - albeit a lot of squealing and body roll and skidding - but you actually do get round the bend eventually
"Games" seem to have you just shoot off into the runoff like a rubber band..
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06-17-2005, 11:28 AM
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I play mostly online on the car park, just fooling around  Cause on the normal track I am the last most of the time 
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06-17-2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by topgeartom
I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? 
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06-17-2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
"Games" seem to have you just shoot off into the runoff like a rubber band.. |
But HOW :shock: Its the best sim on the planet you know 
But you are talking the truth, I can get a surprising amount of grip from a chevy venture van on highway off/on ramps, lots of tire sqeal but plenty of grip too.
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06-17-2005, 04:55 PM
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I've had major problems with controlling the cars even in a straight line.
When i use keyboard, the car's wheels can be turned in variable amounts.
But with a game controller, turning left or right locks the wheels completely. Somehow this makes driving much easier, as the car is more responsive.
The best way to see if a game is not really a simulation is to see if small children can play it well. Any children here to prove my theory
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06-17-2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
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Originally Posted by topgeartom
I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? |
Ohhhhh deary me......someone really doesnt know when to let things drop. Youve surpassed my expectations once again.
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06-17-2005, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by topgeartom
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
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Originally Posted by topgeartom
I dont think youll ever be able to poperly recreate the exact physics of driving just yet. give it another 10 years or so, and well be well on the way,
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ANyway why are you talking about "physics" and "simulation" you an expert now? |
Ohhhhh deary me......someone really doesnt know when to let things drop. Youve surpassed my expectations once again. |
Well you plain ol tom to me, still didnt learn how to play have ya?
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06-17-2005, 05:03 PM
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i only 'play along' to things that may one day be funny.
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06-17-2005, 05:11 PM
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Good one :roll:
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