*** 2006 Monaco GP ***

[HeilSvenska]

Sub-par effort by Alonso, Fisi out-drove him.

You only say that because Alonso didn't have to do anything.

[HeilSvenska]

i'm just curious as to why people think he sucks, even when he is winning.

I dunno either. But I am sure that if other teams had Renault's reliability today, things might have turned out differently. I mean, Schumacher wouldve had a lot more challenge.

[JoeHahn]

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska Sub-par effort by Alonso, Fisi out-drove him. You only say that because Alonso didn't have to do anything.

Obviously. Fisi went places, Alonso's strategy was horrible and could have easily pushed him back to third in the last round of pit-stops.

Everso, I'm not an Alonso hater, for all you know Im a Fisichella fan. Seriously.

[HeilSvenska]

Originally Posted by JoeHahn Originally Posted by HeilSvenska Sub-par effort by Alonso, Fisi out-drove him. You only say that because Alonso didn't have to do anything. Obviously. Fisi went places, Alonso's strategy was horrible and could have easily pushed him back to third in the last round of pit-stops.

First of all, it wasn't his strategy (more of his team's). And obviously it worked. It's not like Fisi wouldn't do the same thing if he were leading. Alonso didn't do anything because he didn't need to. A needless demonstration of his talent, if he has any, might have caused him to make silly mistakes. I like Fisi. But he's been plagued with bad luck too many times.

Raikkonen did what Alonso did last year, although his McLaren was considerably faster than the others'. I wouldn't say his victory was sub-par effort.

[nthfinity]

^^^^
honestly, how can you people put Michael Shumacher on such a high pedistal to think that he isn't human? to think that he can't possibly make mistakes, and the ones he does make are on purpose?

WTF

how many times has he crashed out of a race, or even in practice... i seem to recall a broken leg a few years back, and a nearly bad collision with a wall in 2004.

not only do phisics come to play, but also look at the history... jeezus

[DeMoN]

was hoping both mclarens finished race, 2nd plus 3rd... sad day sad sad.

[kksh]

It's sadder when McLaren could have won. At least it's nice to see that we are nearer to the front.

A great drive by Kimi and Webber. A bit disappointed at JPM. Maybe he's driving to the car's max but kimi's able to extract just a bit more performance.

[5vz-fe]

Originally Posted by nthfinity ^^^^ honestly, how can you people put Michael Shumacher on such a high pedistal to think that he isn't human? to think that he can't possibly make mistakes, and the ones he does make are on purpose? WTF how many times has he crashed out of a race, or even in practice... i seem to recall a broken leg a few years back, and a nearly bad collision with a wall in 2004. not only do phisics come to play, but also look at the history... jeezus

On the same boat...and also to think Alonso publicly stated that his punishment should be even harder is just down right un-f**king believable. Should we just give you the championship right way on a plate?

[Max Power]

^^^
obviously Alonso didn't c MS scap with Senna...if this prick keeps asking for it than I hope he gets his face smashed in

[bmagni]

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe Originally Posted by nthfinity ^^^^ honestly, how can you people put Michael Shumacher on such a high pedistal to think that he isn't human? to think that he can't possibly make mistakes, and the ones he does make are on purpose? WTF how many times has he crashed out of a race, or even in practice... i seem to recall a broken leg a few years back, and a nearly bad collision with a wall in 2004. not only do phisics come to play, but also look at the history... jeezus On the same boat...and also to think Alonso publicly stated that his punishment should be even harder is just down right un-f**king believable. Should we just give you the championship right way on a plate?

hes a fucking prick, thats why I despise him so much... its really un-fuckin-believable. An he must be backed up by Flasshole Briatore. (who is a prick too)

[jenkF1]

Schumachers move was cheap but remember who this is , this is Schumacher one of the greats -winning at all costs and push the rules to the limit to do that. We've seen him take out ppl on track for results and dirty tactics many a times AS we have seen Senna do. It is a dirty trick, but a drity trick caused by his passion to win.

As for Fisi, diving up the inside of DC, double shuffling Villenueve superb driving shame about the traffic. Alonso takes it on a plate again...the story of his career so far? maybe not but he is a very lucky driver. I Highly highly rate him, but not in the league of Schumacher yet. I think he still has more to prove before we can call him a 'great'. He sure has enough time though..

[Max Power]

^^^
u don't know he did it on purpose...there are no decisive evidense to prove that it wasn't a mistake, and Flavio is a fag. :fist:

and as for Alonso, he's had the best car the last 2 seasons and its gone straight to his head...

[saadie]

^^ ..... umm everyone including the FIA officials andd the marshals and the stewards and all the old F! drievers e.g keke are dumbasses and dont know when someone makes a mistake ... SHWEEETT!!!!

you know what ...... im outta here :scatter:

[choudio]

Originally Posted by jenkF1 Schumachers move was cheap but remember who this is , this is Schumacher one of the greats -winning at all costs and push the rules to the limit to do that. We've seen him take out ppl on track for results and dirty tactics many a times AS we have seen Senna do. It is a dirty trick, but a drity trick caused by his passion to win. As for Fisi, diving up the inside of DC, double shuffling Villenueve superb driving shame about the traffic. Alonso takes it on a plate again...the story of his career so far? maybe not but he is a very lucky driver. I Highly highly rate him, but not in the league of Schumacher yet. I think he still has more to prove before we can call him a 'great'. He sure has enough time though..

Wow, thats probably the best post in this whole forum LOLZ!
You know what you are talking about JenKF1 ops: :shock:

[LotusGT1]

Monaco steward says decision 'painful' One of the race stewards at the centre of the Michael Schumacher qualifying controversy in Monaco has admitted that it was a 'painful decision' to punish the seven-time world champion, but claimed there was no choice after finding out that Schumacher had lost control of his car at just 16km/h. Joaquin Verdegay, who is vice-president of the Spanish motorsport federation and one of the three stewards on duty last weekend, has revealed that all the evidence pointed towards Schumacher having acted deliberately in stopping his car. He claims that the speed at which Schumacher went off, allied to the sequence of events that led to the car stalling, all pointed to the fact that the Ferrari driver had tried to deliberately block his rivals by leaving his car on the track. "It was a painful decision because we could not make a mistake and put the reputation of a driver at risk," he told Gazzetta dello Sport. "We don't know if the entire manoeuvre was deliberate, but in that spot he had certainly not done anything like it throughout the weekend: he braked over 50% more heavily than on the other laps. "Then he performed some absolutely unnecessary and pathetic counter-steering, and that lasted five metres, until there was no more chances of going through the turn normally. "He lost control of the car while travelling at 16km/h! That's something completely unjustifiable. And the engine shut off because he wanted it to, by losing enough time before hitting the clutch. And the excuse that he did not engage reverse because there was traffic doesn't make sense." Verdegay added that if Schumacher had actually hit the barriers then the stewards would probably have given him the benefit of the doubt that the entire incident was accidental. "If he had damaged the car we would have probably filed the matter as an error. As it is, to 'park' it that way, you only do it deliberately," he added. "We've only applied article 116 of the sporting regulations: if a driver affects the results of other drivers by committing an error, you can cancel all his lap times." Tony Scott Andrews (GB) and Christian Calmas (F) were the other two stewards..