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oldsnail · 02-11-2004, 04:26 AM

Fiat SpA owns 80% of alfa
General Motors has 20% stakes in Fiat Auto (consists of Fiat, Lancia and Alfa Romeo only). In exchange, Fiat SpA owns 5.1% GM's common stock.

kteo2003 · 02-11-2004, 07:41 AM

i think that the data they gave for the alfa entering the states was for the 2007 with the8C Competizione but i am not sure.

ninopan · 02-11-2004, 09:32 AM

the problem with fwd cars is that too much power on the front wheels is hardly controlable. so it doesn t have to be too powerful. to me the good choice would definitely be the Ford Focus RS (215hp) with its front differential which allows good motricity and handling. 147/156 GTA are also good cars, with a great engine noise (3.2 V6 250hp) but not as controlable as the ford.

zigzag · 02-11-2004, 12:32 PM

147 GTA, Saab 9-3 Vigen, Integra Type-R, Renault Clio Sport, Peugeot 207RS - I would take any of those for everyday use :roll:

NYCHonda · 02-11-2004, 12:32 PM

That's true, understeer is definitely the thing that I hate about fwd. Has any of you guys tried the latest Honda Prelude with an ATTS, an Active Torque Transfer System? It's something that will reduce understeer. The ATTS actually speeds up the outside wheel up to 15%, which pushes the nose around a little faster. I personally like that device. It makes your fwd feel somewhat like a rwd.

graywolf624 · 02-11-2004, 01:19 PM

i think that the data they gave for the alfa entering the states was for the 2007 with the8C Competizione but i am not sure.

Yup.. but then about 2 months ago they changed their minds.

oldsnail · 02-11-2004, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by NYCHonda

That's true, understeer is definitely the thing that I hate about fwd. Has any of you guys tried the latest Honda Prelude with an ATTS, an Active Torque Transfer System? It's something that will reduce understeer. The ATTS actually speeds up the outside wheel up to 15%, which pushes the nose around a little faster. I personally like that device. It makes your fwd feel somewhat like a rwd.

its not the lastest. it is the type SH. they actually only made that from 97-99 and removed it from the 2000 and 20001 year models. it made the car heavy and expensive to repair. and there are probobly other reasons. i havent driven it, but i driven the tiptronic and it sucks.

NYCHonda · 02-11-2004, 02:24 PM

Well, that was the latest generation Prelude. In the U.S, it's from 97-01 Type SH. The Type SH is heavier than the base model Prelude but it's only a little, doesn't make much of a difference. As far as expensive to repair, well, I have Type SH and I didn't pay any extra cost to do any repair.

As with the tiptronic one, yea I didn't like it too. My friend used to have one. The gearchange is too slow for some reason.

oldsnail · 02-11-2004, 02:40 PM

yeh, my sister has a 97 black tiptronic prelude.
sorry, i assumed canada and US would be the same, but clearly it isnt. canada just got the SE in 2000 and 2001. what years is yours?

NYCHonda · 02-11-2004, 02:50 PM

I have the 1997 Type SH.

scubywrxr · 02-11-2004, 04:59 PM

My favorite fronter is the Mini cooper S and the honda integra type R...

Maybe a renault clio 172.

Garretts_turbo · 02-11-2004, 07:34 PM

being a little mopar-biased, im throwing out the SRT4 as my favorite. 230 hp and 250 torque are damn fine figures to have in any compact, and this is without work or mods. plus an extremely good bargain for the money. on top of the performance, the exterior look is very agressive and very nice IMO. i had a chance to check a few out in detail while at the atuo shows. the front seats are the same as the vipers, and exremely nice. the rest of the interior is still a small neon however

mcostalos · 02-12-2004, 08:05 AM

Why hasn't anybody said the Mitsubishi Eclipse???

NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 01:34 PM

I don't think the fwd Eclipse handle as good though in my opinion. Eclipse is only good when it's awd.

gigdy · 02-12-2004, 03:11 PM

Anybody like the Nissan sentra se-r spec v?