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Old 10-04-2004, 07:45 AM   #16
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^they do^ just like ferrari
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Old 10-04-2004, 09:34 AM   #17
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Blech even if the CGT is a hair fater than the Enzo I'm sure the Enzo on steroids aka MC12 can smoke the CGT to bring back the victory.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:08 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by numerouno
Well maybe the CGT was tuned on the 'Ring but, how about Nardo?)
nardo is a high speed huuuuuge oval... not a normal track
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:32 PM   #19
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The Carrera GT was pretty awesome in that test, but how the hell does a Murcielago outbrake an Enzo from high speed?
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:33 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by bmagni
Originally Posted by numerouno
Well maybe the CGT was tuned on the 'Ring but, how about Nardo?)
nardo is a high speed huuuuuge oval... not a normal track
Yeah, right Nardo's an oval, so straight line performance should've made Enzo the winner of that test
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:41 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by bmagni
Originally Posted by numerouno
Well maybe the CGT was tuned on the 'Ring but, how about Nardo?)
nardo is a high speed huuuuuge oval... not a normal track
Yeah, right Nardo's an oval, so straight line performance should've made Enzo the winner of that test
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:02 PM   #22
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i personally think that on tracks like the autocar show test (the show that did the nardo test) and tracks like on top gear like tight lil stupid courses the cgt might win, but on a real circuit like most f1 circuits i think enzo would win,
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:22 PM   #23
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:roll: everybody seems to forget that fact that it lapt nurburgring faster then the CGT. And so did the 360CS...in that case faster then the GT3.
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:27 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by numerouno
Originally Posted by bmagni
Originally Posted by numerouno
Well maybe the CGT was tuned on the 'Ring but, how about Nardo?)
nardo is a high speed huuuuuge oval... not a normal track
Yeah, right Nardo's an oval, so straight line performance should've made Enzo the winner of that test
the enzo won in top speed doing 355 km/h if i remember well, the CGt did 334... this at nardo...
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Old 10-05-2004, 03:22 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by dons5
i personally think that on tracks like the autocar show test (the show that did the nardo test) and tracks like on top gear like tight lil stupid courses the cgt might win, but on a real circuit like most f1 circuits i think enzo would win,
Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
:roll: everybody seems to forget that fact that it lapt nurburgring faster then the CGT. And so did the 360CS...in that case faster then the GT3.
Thumbsup to you guys, I really wish a head on battle be arranged between the Kraut and the Tifosi on a real track and I'm damn sure the prancing horse will fry the kraut's ass
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:21 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
:roll: everybody seems to forget that fact that it lapt nurburgring faster then the CGT. And so did the 360CS...in that case faster then the GT3.
ehh what?

Challenge Stradale: 7.56 min
911 GT3 : 7.54 min
GT3 RS: 7.47 min

both GT3 versions are faster than Stradale. Since Enzo havent been tested so yes, CGT is faster than enzo too.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:45 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Just_me
Lambo Murcielago: 212 m(from 250km/hr to standstill)
Ferrari Enzo: 215 m
Porsche Carrera GT: 191 m
Mercedes SLR McLaren: 221 m
There's no way the murcielago could outbreak the enzo. Not only is it heavier, but it also doesn't have CC brakes. The numbers are a bit fishy...

The CGT could beat the Enzo around slower, more curvey tracks, because its a smaller car. But on "real" race tracks, which have more high speed corners, the Enzo would win. The nardo track is very curvey...

On the other hand, I don't think that times aroung the 'ring are of much use, because its just too long. I think there are very few drivers that are able to perfectly go round it.
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Old 10-05-2004, 07:18 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by nejcdolinsek
Originally Posted by Just_me
Lambo Murcielago: 212 m(from 250km/hr to standstill)
Ferrari Enzo: 215 m
Porsche Carrera GT: 191 m
Mercedes SLR McLaren: 221 m
The CGT could beat the Enzo around slower, more curvey tracks, because its a smaller car. But on "real" race tracks, which have more high speed corners, the Enzo would win. The nardo track is very curvey...

On the other hand, I don't think that times aroung the 'ring are of much use, because its just too long. I think there are very few drivers that are able to perfectly go round it.
speculations are fun, right? 8)
I believe CGt is faster than enzo on most of the tracks but just like you this only speculations.
Will we ever get an answer? Nope, I dont think so

More laptimes for you, this time on Hockenheim.

GT3: 1.13,2 min
GT3 RS: 1.11,8 min
CGT: 1.08,6 min
Stradale: 1.13 min

No times for Enzo but I think 1.08,6 min is hard to beat.
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Old 10-05-2004, 07:38 AM   #29
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Maybe this will help just a bit.

I'm a huuuuge ferrari fan (I love everything except the f1 team),
but these times are a bit worrying:



enzo only about 2-3 sec faster than the 360cs...
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:16 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by komotar
Maybe this will help just a bit.

I'm a huuuuge ferrari fan (I love everything except the f1 team),
but these times are a bit worrying:



enzo only about 2-3 sec faster than the 360cs...
Fiorano is a short track with many tight turns... the Enzo's power isn't fully used here...
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