*** 2005 Brazilian Grand Prix ***

[Toronto]

Qualifying
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:11.988
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.145
3 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:12.558
4 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:12.696
5 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.781
6 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:12.889
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:12.976
8 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:13.041
9 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:13.151
10 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:13.183
11 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:13.285
12 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:13.372
13 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:13.387
14 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:13.538
15 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:13.581
16 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:13.844
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:14.520
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:14.763
19 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda
20 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth

[ZfrkS62]

i was wondering where this thread was

Watching practice 2 right now. Schumi is fastest in session 2 so far with alonso 5th.

shaping up to be a great race

[|Nuno|]

Brilliant... Now the supposed "super" tyres will only be used in Japan, because Bridgestone "found something" in Jerez... That means that Ferrari's using the France based spec tyres. :roll: Add that to car that has already stopped being developed for some time now, and we have another humilliation ahead.


I hope it rains on Sunday...

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by |Nuno| Brilliant... Now the supposed "super" tyres will only be used in Japan, because Bridgestone "found something" in Jerez... That means that Ferrari's using the France based spec tyres. :roll: Add that to car that has already stopped being developed for some time now, and we have another humilliation ahead. I hope it rains on Sunday...

well Schumi dropped to 5th with McLaren jumping to the front.

If it rains, i think we will see championship tighten up severly. Bridgestone may have failed in their quest for a good dry tire, but they are still superior with their wets.

[|Nuno|]

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62 Originally Posted by |Nuno| Brilliant... Now the supposed "super" tyres will only be used in Japan, because Bridgestone "found something" in Jerez... That means that Ferrari's using the France based spec tyres. :roll: Add that to car that has already stopped being developed for some time now, and we have another humilliation ahead. I hope it rains on Sunday... well Schumi dropped to 5th with McLaren jumping to the front. If it rains, i think we will see championship tighten up severly. Bridgestone may have failed in their quest for a good dry tire, but they are still superior with their wets.

Heh, not really if you look at Spa. Michelin did a lot of Wet tyre testing in the winter and tightened the gap; I'd say they're comparable right now, maybe with a small adavantadge to Michelin. The little fuckers completely copied the Bridgestone's intermediates tread design...

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by |Nuno| Originally Posted by ZfrkS62 Originally Posted by |Nuno| Brilliant... Now the supposed "super" tyres will only be used in Japan, because Bridgestone "found something" in Jerez... That means that Ferrari's using the France based spec tyres. :roll: Add that to car that has already stopped being developed for some time now, and we have another humilliation ahead. I hope it rains on Sunday... well Schumi dropped to 5th with McLaren jumping to the front. If it rains, i think we will see championship tighten up severly. Bridgestone may have failed in their quest for a good dry tire, but they are still superior with their wets. Heh, not really if you look at Spa. Michelin did a lot of Wet tyre testing in the winter and tightened the gap; I'd say they're comparable right now, maybe with a small adavantadge to Michelin. The little fuckers completely copied the Bridgestone's intermediates tread design...

True, but i still don't think Michelin has the formula down for the inters. tread design does not entirely dictate a tire's performance.

[taygunho]

fri practise 2
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 35 Alexander Wurz McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.083
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.694
3 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:12.706
4 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:12.710
5 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:13.088
6 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:13.172
7 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:13.202
8 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:13.205
9 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:13.493
10 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:13.518
11 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:13.545
12 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:13.650
13 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:13.828
14 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:13.922
15 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:14.006
16 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:14.141
17 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:14.189
18 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:14.427
19 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:14.563
20 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:14.584
21 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:14.671
22 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:14.698
23 39 Nicolas Kiesa Jordan-Toyota 1:15.094
24 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:15.187

[|Nuno|]

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62 Originally Posted by |Nuno| Originally Posted by ZfrkS62 Originally Posted by |Nuno| Brilliant... Now the supposed "super" tyres will only be used in Japan, because Bridgestone "found something" in Jerez... That means that Ferrari's using the France based spec tyres. :roll: Add that to car that has already stopped being developed for some time now, and we have another humilliation ahead. I hope it rains on Sunday... well Schumi dropped to 5th with McLaren jumping to the front. If it rains, i think we will see championship tighten up severly. Bridgestone may have failed in their quest for a good dry tire, but they are still superior with their wets. Heh, not really if you look at Spa. Michelin did a lot of Wet tyre testing in the winter and tightened the gap; I'd say they're comparable right now, maybe with a small adavantadge to Michelin. The little fuckers completely copied the Bridgestone's intermediates tread design... True, but i still don't think Michelin has the formula down for the inters. tread design does not entirely dictate a tire's performance.

Yeah, I wasn't relying on the tread design alone. But look at this:

When it rained at Indy in 2003, by the time all the drivers had the inters on, Schummi was being about 3 seconds a lap faster than Raikokonen and a Sauber finished in third, ahead of a Renault. Hell, even the Jordans were being fast!


And now look at Spa, this year...

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Saturday Practise 1


1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:12.738

2 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:12.789

3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:13.050

4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:13.088

5 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:13.186

6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:13.529

7 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:13.795

8 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:13.869

9 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:13.908

10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:13.952

11 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:14.042

12 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:14.051

13 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:14.112

14 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:14.255

15 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:14.401

16 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:14.479

17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:14.851

18 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:15.252

19 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:15.772

20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:15.815

[taygunho]

saturday practice 2
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:11.929
2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:12.110
3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:12.148
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:12.158
5 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.292
6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:12.382
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:12.453
8 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:12.509
9 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:12.752
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:12.799
11 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:12.811
12 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:13.199
13 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:13.222
14 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:13.242
15 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:13.305
16 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:13.508
17 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:13.817
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:14.012
19 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:14.114
20 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:14.595

[sameerrao]

Alonso on Pole .. Kimi made a mistake in the Senna S

[5vz-fe]

Kimi screwed up

[taygunho]

klien 6th in grid. good qualifying for him 1 second better than coulthard.

[ZfrkS62]

i hope JPM goes kamikaze on Alonso somewhere

[kksh]

Shit! Rare mistake from Kimi. But it'll be fun to see him charge up the field provided he doesn't get held up by Button and Fisi. At least he'll be on the clean side of the road and probably out drag Button. I want to see an out and out fight between Kimi, JPM and Alonso. No holds barred. The championship's lost anyway. With the updated Renault, the car's more than a match for the MP4/20. Can't wait for the race. Go McLaren!!!!

[kksh]

Alonso's a chicken. No balls whatsoever. Even with the championship won, he won't dare go wheel to wheel with JPM or Kimi.