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Old 09-02-2005, 11:53 AM   #1
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Default *** 2005 Italian Grand Prix ***

RACE FINAL
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 53 1:14:28.659 1 10
2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 53 +2.4 secs 2 8
3 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 53 +17.9 secs 8 6
4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 53 +22.7 secs 11 5
5 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 53 +33.7 secs 5 4
6 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 53 +43.9 secs 9 3
7 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 53 +44.6 secs 16 2
8 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 53 +63.6 secs 3 1
9 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 53 +75.4 secs 15
10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 53 +96.0 secs 6
11 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 52 +1 Lap 12
12 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 52 +1 Lap 7
13 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 52 +1 Lap 13
14 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 52 +1 Lap 14
15 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 52 +1 Lap 10
16 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 52 +1 Lap 4
17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 51 +2 Laps 17
18 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 51 +2 Laps 18
19 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 51 +2 Laps 20
20 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 50 +3 Laps 19
Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:21.504


Fri Parc 1
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.201
2 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:21.816
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.842
4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.078
5 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:22.351
6 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:22.567
7 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:22.577
8 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:23.739
9 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:24.001
10 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:24.166
11 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:24.196
12 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:25.134
13 39 Nicolas Kiesa Jordan-Toyota 1:25.374
14 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.497
15 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:25.611
16 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.853
17 40 Enrico Toccacelo Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.896
18 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas
19 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda
20 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas
21 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing
22 5 Fernando Alonso Renault
23 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
24 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota
25 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota


Fri Prac 2
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:20.531
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.583
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.735
4 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.922
5 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:22.032
6 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:22.107
7 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:22.253
8 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:22.278
9 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:22.440
10 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:22.594
11 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.600
12 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:22.749
13 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:23.052
14 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:23.126
15 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:23.208
16 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:23.213
17 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:23.223
18 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:23.415
19 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:23.506
20 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:23.994
21 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:24.202
22 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.233
23 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.264
24 40 Enrico Toccacelo Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.245
25 39 Nicolas Kiesa Jordan-Toyota

Qual
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.878
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.054
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:21.319
4 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:21.369
5 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.477
6 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:21.640
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.721
8 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:21.962
9 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:22.068
10 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:22.266
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.304
12 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:22.356
13 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.532
14 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:22.560
15 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:23.060
16 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 1:23.291
17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:24.666
18 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.904
19 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:25.859
20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:26.964
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:54 AM   #2
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Man I thought Ferrari would pull a one of Victory this time around but damn, looks like they arent even going to take a number 3 spot.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:06 PM   #3
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Bah! Ferrari is 1-2 seconds of the pace - a huge amount. I think they can get fight for 7th or 8th
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:23 PM   #4
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My dad is gonna watched the race live on Monza... that fucking twat, he didn't even bring me with him!

Kimi gonna take this one, I feel it.
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Old 09-02-2005, 06:38 PM   #5
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if its not ferrari then let kimi be it, anyone but alonso or montoya please !!
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:37 AM   #6
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Well it will be one hell of a charge from Kimi if he manages it. Engine change - AGAIN *tearing hair out* unless Montoya takes Alonso out I think we will be seeing the effective end of the championship this weekend. :cry:
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:02 AM   #7
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fuck...Those Mercedes engine really sux big time
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:15 PM   #8
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My heart goes out to Kimi!

Michael looked really on it. I thought his time would take a few more spots ahead. But it was not to be.

Montoya looks likely to win this one with the sheer speed of the McLaren. I think Kimi will make it to the podium. Kimi's lap must really have been phenomenal considering how much more fuel he must be carrying. All that load still pole position. He is certainly the fastest man in F1 today!

Alonso is running a Swiss watch with a Japanese movement summa cum magna reliable. He is not making mistakes and his car is ultra-reliable. Well-deserving champion-elect.

Driver quotes: (source: www.Formula1.com)

Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren (1st, 1m 20.878s):
“Unfortunately, I can not make the best use of my qualifying performance which would have been pole position. Having to start from 11th position I face a difficult race but it was the best I could achieve. However the speed of our car is so good, which means I still see a chance of moving up the field and you never know what happens.”

Juan Pablo Montoya, McLaren (2nd, +0.176s):
“A clean and fast lap and I am pretty happy with my performance. It is good to start from the front, and I now need a trouble free run to the first corner. To get through there without problems is crucial. Unfortunately Kimi has to start from 11th, but a lot is still possible. We will give it our all to win the race and close the gap in both the Drivers’ and Constructors’ World Championship.”

Fernando Alonso, Renault (3rd, +0.441s):
“It was a nice lap for me. We have had a few more problems with the car than we expected this weekend, after a good test, but we worked quite a lot this morning to prepare for the race and improve the handling. Even so, I had some doubts about our speed over one single lap, but I showed the speed was there this afternoon - which makes me even more confident for tomorrow. Obviously, I have been helped by Kimi’s problem but that doesn’t change anything for us: we know we need to finish the race with no problems, and hopefully get on the podium. That’s what I will be doing tomorrow afternoon.”

Jenson Button, BAR (4th, +0.491s):
“I am pretty happy with that! After suffering with the set-up of the car a bit this morning, and having to slow up in the final free practice session because of the two yellow flags, I was a little disappointed before qualifying. Alonso and I were extremely close for 2nd, but 3rd here does have the advantage of being on the cleaner side of the track. It’s nice to be near to the front on the grid again and hopefully we have a reasonably good strategy and pace so we can keep it there!”

Takuma Sato, BAR (5th, +0.599s):
“I enjoyed the lap and I’m very happy to be starting 4th tomorrow. I was very pleased with the car balance this morning when we were very consistent through the longer runs during free practice. We have a strong package now after making some changes since yesterday and I hope tomorrow we can repeat the success that we had here last year. Traditionally we always have a good race in Monza so I’m looking forward to tomorrow.”

Jarno Trulli, Toyota (6th, +0.762s):
"I was not expecting to be so quick or to be able to put together a lap time like that. You have to be very precise with your braking here, so to get it right in qualifying when you only have one lap is very difficult. But the car behaved well and the lap was clean, smooth and just aggressive enough. We have a good strategy for the race, so I am confident we can convert this into a good result. It is always special to be at home with so many supporters, and I have always been competitive here but I have not had much luck, so I hope to turn that around tomorrow."

Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (7th, +0.843s):
“Considering I had to make my run early in the session, which is definitely a disadvantage, I am quite happy with my lap time, which owes a lot to the work we did here last week. Although we should not really use our performance in Turkey as a reference point, this is an improvement. We have worked well and, if you leave out one team, who are just too dominant, we are in the frame. Tomorrow, our realistic target is to fight for points. Although it would be wonderful to end up on the podium in front of all our home fans, I feel that is a bit too optimistic.”

Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (8th, +1.084s):
“I think that today’s performance shows that we have done a good job of improving the car since yesterday. But I drove a good lap which started very well, until I had a bit too much graining on the front tyres, which caused the car to understeer and I lost time in the two Lesmo corners. Considering the problems we have encountered so far, I think I can be relatively pleased with today’s result and I am happy with my last good qualifying lap for Ferrari at Monza.”

Giancarlo Fisichella, Renault (9th, +1.190s):
“I am very disappointed after that lap. I locked up under braking for the first chicane, and lost at least half a second in that corner and on the straight afterwards. Without that, I think I could have certainly been in the top five, so obviously I am quite a long way from the potential this afternoon. But I am still positive for tomorrow - we will see how much fuel the other cars have for their first stint, and I think our strategy will help me to climb some more positions.”

Ralf Schumacher, Toyota (10th, +1.388s):
"That was a pretty good lap from me, particularly because I had some trouble finalising my set-up this morning. We made a set-up change in the break before qualifying and that was a help. I didn't feel totally comfortable over the kerbs but it was a clean lap and I had no particular problems. Our grid position certainly leaves us in good shape to chase another strong points finish tomorrow."

David Coulthard, Red Bull (11th, +1.426s):
“No big events during that lap; the balance of the car was good, but it was capable of going quicker. I wasn’t entirely happy with my performance in qualifying and think it’s fair to say that Christian wasn’t either. I wasn’t really able to feel the car enough on the warm up lap, it felt a bit numb, so I couldn’t tell how hard to push. As a result, I was a bit too conservative going into the first chicane and lost a couple of tenths by braking too early. It’s frustrating when that happens, as once you’ve taken the decision, it’s difficult to make up the time after. Nonetheless, I think we’ve got good experience of the car on this track and it’s certainly possible for the team to score some points.”

Jacques Villeneuve, Sauber (12th, +1.478s):
“We are only two positions off our ideal position, which would have been
10th, so it was not too bad for me today. The lap was quite good.”

Christian Klien, Red Bull (13th, +1.654s):
“I don’t think that was such great lap. I suffered with understeer in two different places, including the last corner. It meant I had to back off and lost some time. I think it could have been better, as overall feeling of the car is good, but a few small mistakes make all the difference.”

Mark Webber, Williams (14th, +1.682s):
“The car seems to be reasonable so far this weekend. Last week in the test here we showed some positive steps in performance in relation to the outright pace. Clearly the people working back at the factory have done a good job in the wind tunnel with such a low downforce package which you need in Monza and also BMW is pushing hard for this race. Having to start as second qualifier didn’t help, but I am happy with my lap anyway. The race in Monza is usually hard on the tyres and the cars are sliding a lot around the corners, but it’s the same for everyone and it should be an interesting race tomorrow.”

Felipe Massa, Sauber (15th, +2.182s):
“Starting in the first three in qualifying is definitely not great! When my turn came the track was still quite slippery. But looking at our strategy the lap was actually pretty good and we know that our car is going to be better in race trim, so the situation is a lot better than it appears to be.”

Antonio Pizzonia, Williams (16th, +2.413s):
“I was still sleeping when the telephone rang this morning at 8:30 and they told me to rush to the track. I have been away from the car for nearly three months and the last time I drove an F1 car it was fitted with a V8 engine, which makes a big difference. Obviously it was a bit tricky to get used to the car so quickly, but I am happy to have the opportunity to race for the team again. Knowing that I was going to be the first car out for qualifying, today we concentrated more on race set up but I am happy with my qualifying lap, considering the situation. There is a lot more to come from me and hopefully I can do a good job tomorrow.”

Tiago Monteiro, Jordan (17th, +3.788s):
“I am quite satisfied with my lap in qualifying today. The new car felt ok, however Monza is not the easiest track to gain a greater benefit but we had more stability in the entry of the corners. We are looking forward to tracks with more downforce where we will be able to use the advantage we have with the new package. Here the track is tricky for everyone as the low downforce set-up naturally makes the car a bit unstable. I am happy with the new car and we know there is still much more to come.”

Robert Doornbos, Minardi (18th, +4.026s):
"It's been a strong weekend so far for the Minardi team, and also for me. We have been able to find a good set-up for the car, and I have been able to be quick in every practice session. I was a little bit apprehensive about qualifying, as we had a technical problem in Turkey and I was a bit too enthusiastic in Hungary, but we had a good, clean lap today. It's nice to see that we can really fight with the Jordans, and I hope it continues this way for me tomorrow."

Narain Karthikeyan, Jordan (19th, +4.981s):
“My lap was ok considering the accident I had this morning when I spun the car under braking, trying to get heat into a new set of tyres. I am still feeling a bit sore. The mechanics worked really hard to fix the car and they did a great job. However, in qualifying, the car was a bit unstable so we decided to take it a bit easier. Nevertheless, I am pretty confident for tomorrow’s race.”

Christijan Albers, Minardi (20th, +6.086s):
"It was a shame about qualifying today, but it can happen when you are driving on the limit - sometimes you go over it. I'm sorry for the boys, as well, since they worked hard on the car. Anyway, tomorrow's a new day, and you score points for the race, not qualifying, so we'll see what we can do."

Top 5 in each sector
SECTOR 1
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 26.107
2 5 Fernando Alonso 26.121
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen 26.161
4 2 Rubens Barrichello 26.311
5 4 Takuma Sato 26.373

SECTOR 2
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen 27.543
2 3 Jenson Button 27.639
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 27.792
4 16 Jarno Trulli 27.819
5 5 Fernando Alonso 27.836

SECTOR 3
1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya 27.155
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen 27.174
3 4 Takuma Sato 27.229
4 1 Michael Schumacher 27.304
5 3 Jenson Button 27.322
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Old 09-03-2005, 01:16 PM   #9
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Man Mercedes is just giving the victory away to Alonso,,,,,just giving it away.....
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:51 PM   #10
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i trust the merc to have a new engine and work its way up, it has been done...
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Old 09-04-2005, 10:02 AM   #11
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They are going to have to do something about the tyre regs. I got a bit worried for Juan on his last lap! No ones going to change there tyre if its dangerous with 3 laps left unless its totally coming off the rims. Especially when Michelins grippy tyres seem to have sidewalls made of jelly.

I've finally accepted the Ferrari era is well and truly over
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Old 09-04-2005, 10:24 AM   #12
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^Just one season and u believe their era is over?? u are not a big fan, are u.

I feel bad for Kimi tho, he could have won the race if he didn't have an engine failure, Mclaren really screwed him up. (for the entire season)
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Old 09-04-2005, 10:34 AM   #13
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Bridgestone announced that for the next races , are bringing new versions of the Potenza , so maybe , maybe Ferrari will win a race or two this year.

Or we should pray for rain for the few remaining races .
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Old 09-04-2005, 10:49 AM   #14
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^Talk about dry spell, when's the last race??

Kimi is still the fastest......by far
Ferraris are on dismal 12,13

Originally Posted by Formula1.com
2005 Italian Grand Prix


Pos No Driver Team Lap Time Of Day Average Speed Time

1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 51 15:15:42 255.874 1:21.504
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 15 14:24:22 254.861 1:21.828
3 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 16 14:25:47 253.874 1:22.146
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 16 14:26:08 252.519 1:22.587
5 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 19 14:30:16 251.775 1:22.831
6 8 Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 21 1421 251.656 1:22.870
7 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 40 15:01:03 251.459 1:22.935
8 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 19 14:30:23 251.032 1:23.076
9 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 16 14:26:05 250.776 1:23.161
10 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 14 14:23:20 250.234 1:23.341
11 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 18 14:29:08 250.162 1:23.365
12 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 13 14:21:57 249.859 1:23.466
13 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 5 14:10:48 249.507 1:23.584
14 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 17 14:27:46 249.360 1:23.633
15 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 18 14:29:42 248.665 1:23.867
16 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 13 14:22:05 248.591 1:23.892
17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 9 14:16:39 245.900 1:24.810
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 33 14:52:38 245.448 1:24.966
19 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 17 14:29:26 244.929 1:25.146
20 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 31 14:49:01 244.794 1:25.193
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:13 PM   #15
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i guess it was expected, but still im suprised by barichellos final ride with Ferrari... and whats with the goofy stickers on thier car? is this the visual end of tobacco sponsorship showing?

all in all, i disagree a bit with dani- i dont think the final lap was exciting... but it definately was suspensful.

if that had happened 2 laps, or even 1 lap before, the outcome could've been very different.


and nothing new from Ferrari except they arent getting any points. its like they have both given up since the team has... honestly, i would like to see M. Shumacher maintain 3rd... JP will take that place if Ferrari continues out of the points
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