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Old 07-07-2005, 09:35 PM   #1
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Default *** 2005 British Grand Prix ***

Friday 08 Jul 2005
Practice 1 11:00 - 12:00
Practice 2 14:00 - 15:00

Saturday 09 Jul 2005
Practice 1 09:00 - 09:45
Practice 2 10:15 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00

Sunday 10 Jul 2005
Race 13:00

Circuit: Silverstone
Race Laps: 60
Lap Length: 5.141 km
Race Length: 308.46 k

I hope what happend thurs, doesn't effect this weekends GP

Race:
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points

1 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes Winner
2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault +2.7 secs
3 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes +14.4 secs
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault +17.9 secs
5 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda +40.2 secs
6 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari +75.3 secs
7 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari +76.5 secs
8 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota +79.2 secs
9 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota +80.8 secs
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
11 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW +1 Lap
12 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW +1 Lap
13 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing +1 Lap
14 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas +1 Lap
15 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing +1 Lap
16 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda +2 Lap
17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota +2 Lap
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth +3 Lap
19 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth +4 Lap
Ret 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota +50 Laps

good to see almost every car finish
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:32 PM   #2
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We McLaren are going to win it. No questions. Of course baring any mechnical mishaps.

Go Kimi!!! Go JPM!!!!!
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It's hard to say, this is 2nd race for Kimi's engine. I have a feeling it gonna blow. No doubt, Mclaren looks very strong during Silverstone pratices.
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yeah.. but i'm hoping that engine blow last race was a one off thing. The pace the Mclarens are doing is incredible. If he has that pace, he can take it easy once he has like a 30 sec cushion. Hope that's not wishful thinking.
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Friday Practice 1
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.205
2 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:20.139
3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.211
4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.411
5 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:21.080
6 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.091
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.453
8 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.582
9 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:22.216
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:22.350
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.403
12 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.456
13 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:22.615
14 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:23.370
15 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:23.394
16 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:24.321
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:24.581
18 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:25.488
19 39 Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota 1:25.560
20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.897
21 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:27.246
22 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
23 5 Fernando Alonso Renault
24 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota

Friday Practice 2
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.530
2 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:18.964
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.252
4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.384
5 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:20.602
6 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:20.816
7 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.990
8 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:21.004
9 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:21.034
10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.044
11 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:21.186
12 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:21.235
13 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:21.279
14 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:21.323
15 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:21.519
16 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:21.577
17 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:22.180
18 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:22.500
19 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:22.795
20 39 Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota 1:22.812
21 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.390
22 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:23.629
23 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:23.891
24 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.594
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Friday Practice 1
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.205
2 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:20.139
3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.211
4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.411
5 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:21.080
6 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.091
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.453
8 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.582
9 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:22.216
10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:22.350
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.403
12 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.456
13 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:22.615
14 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:23.370
15 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:23.394
16 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:24.321
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:24.581
18 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:25.488
19 39 Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota 1:25.560
20 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.897
21 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:27.246
22 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
23 5 Fernando Alonso Renault
24 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota

Friday Practice 2
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 35 Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes 1:18.530
2 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:18.964
3 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.252
4 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.384
5 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:20.602
6 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:20.816
7 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.990
8 37 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 1:21.004
9 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:21.034
10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.044
11 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:21.186
12 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:21.235
13 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:21.279
14 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:21.323
15 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:21.519
16 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:21.577
17 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:22.180
18 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:22.500
19 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:22.795
20 39 Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota 1:22.812
21 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.390
22 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:23.629
23 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:23.891
24 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.594

Friday Comments:
The two Friday testers were the only drivers to dip below 1m 20s, but Juan Pablo Montoya and Kimi Raikkonen boosted McLaren further with the third and fourth fastest times. The Colombian lapped in 1m 20.252s, the Finn in 1m 20.384s. Both pronounced themselves satisfied with their afternoon’s work, on a day when many found it difficult to generate good tyre temperatures.

Ralf Schumacher was a late improver to fifth place with 1m 20.602s for Toyota, chased by team-mate Jarno Trulli (who spun in Luffield) on 1m 20.816s. Fernando Alonso was the final driver below 1m 21s, taking his Renault round in 1m 20.990s.

Tonio Liuzzi reminded everyone of his potential with eighth fastest time for Red Bull Racing of 1m 21.004s, narrowly beating team-mate David Coulthard (1m 21.034s), but Christian Klien in the third car had a torrid time at Chapel, going off the road there three times in the course of the hour-long session.

Michael Schumacher rounded out the top 10 with 1m 21.044s for Ferrari, just ahead of Jenson Button’s 1m 21.186s for BAR Honda. Then came Mark Webber (1m 21.235s), Giancarlo Fisichella (1m 21.279s), Klien (1m 21.323s), Rubens Barrichello (1m 21.519s) and Felipe Massa (1m 21.577s).

Jacques Villeneuve lapped in 1m 22.180s, having spun at Chapel on cold tyres and later damaged the front suspension and aerodynamics running over debris. Sauber will have new-style front wings tomorrow. Nick Heidfeld was 18th on 1m 22.500s, ahead of Takuma Sato (who went off at Club and subsequently lapped in 1m 22.795s) and Robert Doornbos, who took the Jordan EJ15B round in 1m 22.812s.

At the tail end, Christijan Albers pushed his Minardi ahead of Tiago Monteiro and Narain Karthikeyan, with a lap in 1m 23.390s compared to the Portuguese’s 1m 23.629s and the Indian’s 1m 23.891s. Patrick Friesacher brought up the rear with 1m 24.594s.

As usual, it’s difficult to read much into Friday times, as several drivers did their low-fuel runs at different times, while others ran into traffic with their new tyres. A clearer picture should emerge tomorrow morning, but so far things have been going the way of the favourite, McLaren.
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Old 07-08-2005, 12:42 PM   #7
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Mclaren has some awesome pace, and so is Toyota. Doesn't look too bright for Ferrari. <Pls make Kimi's engine fail.....finger crossing>
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Sat prac 1:
1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.975
2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:21.402
3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:21.996
4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:22.331
5 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.377
6 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:22.389
7 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:22.413
8 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:22.496
9 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.645
10 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:22.775
11 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:23.026
12 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:23.182
13 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:23.191
14 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:23.458
15 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:23.480
16 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:23.705
17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:23.820
18 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:24.230
19 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.007
20 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.696

Sat prac 2:
1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.077
2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.128
3 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:20.449
4 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:20.524
5 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.763
6 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:20.798
7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:20.893
8 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:21.004
9 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:21.052
10 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:21.064
11 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:21.371
12 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:21.476
13 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:21.704
14 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.931
15 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 1:22.036
16 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:22.634
17 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:23.165
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.444
19 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:23.586
20 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes


Qual:
1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:19.905
2 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.932
3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:20.207
4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:20.382
5 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:20.459
6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:20.906
7 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:21.010
8 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:21.114
9 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:21.191
10 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:21.275
11 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 1:21.352
12 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 1:21.997
13 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 1:22.108
14 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 1:22.117
15 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 1:22.207
16 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:22.495
17 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 1:23.583
18 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 1:24.576
19 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 1:25.566
20 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota

Notes: Kimi Raikkonen receives 10 position grid penalty for engine change, therefore 12th.

Saturday practice full report

Renault displaced McLaren at the top of the times at Silverstone this morning, as teams completed their final running prior to qualifying. But the even worse news for McLaren was that pre-race favourite Kimi Raikkonen suffered yet another Mercedes-Benz engine failure on his first flying lap in the second session, and will thus get a 10 grid place penalty for the second consecutive race.
Fernando Alonso was the fastest man in another overcast and relatively cool session, lapping his Renault in 1m 20.077s to pip Juan Pablo Montoya's 1m 20.128s. Earlier, just after Raikkonen's problem, the Colombian had put McLaren hearts in mouths by running wide at Copse, but all was otherwise well and the team's best hope now is that Montoya can come good and win to prevent anyone else from scoring the 10 points that Raikkonen will struggle to attain.

Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher were third and fourth for Toyota in the second session, with laps of 1m 20.449s and 1m 20.524s respectively. And there was good news for British fans when Jenson Button lapped his BAR Honda in 1m 20.763s, to go ahead of Giancarlo Fisichella and Michael Schumacher on 1m 20.798s and 1m 20.893s.

Late improvements left BMW Williams in something of a quandary. Mark Webber leapt up to eighth with 1m 21.004s, just ahead of Nick Heidfeld on 1m 21.052s. Where the Australian retained the latest MkII aerodynamic package, Heidfeld had reverted to the MkI and was little slower, so now they have a tough choice to make for qualifying.

Christian Klien was pushed back by their late rush, and having gone off the road again, this time at Luffield, the Austrian pushed his Red Bull to 10th best time of 1m 21.064s. Team-mate David Coulthard was left on 1m 23.165s in 17th place after his RB1 rolled to a halt with mechanical problems at Farm.

In 11th place Rubens Barrichello's 1m 21.371s beat the similarly-engined Saubers of Jacques Villeneuve and Felipe Massa, who lapped in 1m 21.476s and 1m 21.704s. Both Sauber drivers had the benefit of new front wings, which arrived after practice yesterday afternoon.

Takuma Sato was 14th for BAR on 1m 21.931s, ahead of the Jordans. Tiago Monteiro recorded 1m 22.036s, but having had an engine change on Friday he needed another one after his Toyota failed at Copse in this morning's second session. Narain Karthikeyan lapped in 1m 22.634s.

Behind Coulthard, Christijan Albers only narrowly fended off Patrick Friesacher in the Minardi camp, the Dutchman's best of 1m 23.444s comparing to the Austrian's 1m 23.586s.

Raikkonen did not record a time.
Alonso pips Button to pole:

A dramatic qualifying session for the British Grand Prix at Silverstone saw the final three runners each take pole in turn - leaving Championship leader Fernando Alonso on the top of the pile with another P1 grid spot for tomorrow's race.
Both Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen squeezed out Jenson Button from the Silverstone front row - but the Finn's engine failure this morning will see him dropped ten places down the order, leaving the English driver just a place away from the pole position that seemed to be within his grasp with a brilliant 1:20.207, with just two runners still to go. Raikkonen then improved that it 1:19.932, before Alonso asserted himself with 1:19.905 as the last man out.

Alonso and Button are both well pleased. The Spaniard believes that Renault has closed the gap to McLaren. And while Button complained of too much understeer in the many high-speed corners here, he added: "If we don't get a podium position, I will be disappointed. I was trying to talk our performance down a little before the weekend, and Renault will be very strong, but I hope we can have a good race and obviously that's our aim. We probably have a better car here than we've had all year, and I hope that nobody will be disappointed in what we do this weekend."

Raikkonen was philosophical about the mechanical problem that, for the second race running, drops him 10 places. He will start 12th.

Behind Montoya, elevated to third on the grid, Jarno trulli had a nice, clean lap in his Toyota for 1:20.459, and Rubens Barrichello completed the runners below 1m 21s with 1:20.906.

Giancarlo Fisichella was all set for a fast lap, and indeed claimed a momentary fastest time in the first sector, but he lost out in the second and was actually three tenths slower in the third than he had been on his out lap, - a 1:21.010 left him only seventh, sixth on corrected placing.

Takuma Sato and Ralf Schumacher will share the fourth row, with laps of 1:21.114 and 1:21.19 respectively, while the fifth will contain old enemies Michael Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve. The reigning champion spoiled his run with a dirty moment exiting Stowe and could not recover the lost momentum on his way to 1:21.275; the former champ was much happier with his Sauber's aerodynamic balance thanks to the new front wing, on his way to 1:21.351.

Mark Webber will share row sixth with Raikkonen, the Australian pushing his MkII bodied Williams round in 1:21.997. Nick Heidfeld, who ran two cars earlier than his team-mate, kept his car as it was this morning and recorded 1:22.117.

David Coulthard's Red Bull was repaired in time for him to post 1:22.108 for 13th, while Christian Klien's 1:22.207 as first man out left him 15th, behind Heidfeld. Felipe Massa also started early, going out second, so the team opted to give him plenty of fuel and 1:22.295 for 16th place was the result.

Narain Karthikeyan managed a time of 1:23.583 to keep Jordan ahead of the Minardis, Christijan Albers lapping his PS05 in 1:24.576 and Patrick Friesacher his in 1:25.566. Tiago Monteiro, however, simply came in at the end of his out lap, having checked out that his newly installed Toyota engine was functioning correctly.

So that's the line-up, and a great race is in prospect. Can Button win? Will Alonso extend his series lead with his sixth triumph? Or can Raikkonen make it all the way through? The permutations are endless.
On a quick other note, nice to see they had a minutes silence.
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Not looking good......really not looking good.

*EDIT*....As expected...Kimi's engine blew.
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Very disappointing from Michael. I'm starting to lose hope in the comeback.
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Very disappointing from Michael. I'm starting to lose hope in the comeback.
Me too. Maybe there will be a good battle between him and Jacques though.
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Old 07-09-2005, 07:41 PM   #12
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When will Mclaren Learn -Reliablility is gonna cost em the CHAMPIONSHIP!

All I Gotta Say For All The Brits Here is..

COME ON JENSON!!!

Doubt hes gonna make much of an impact though after we see Alonso fly off into the distance, Fisi pick up the pace and the Maccas slice through the field. Still keepin my fingers crossed...
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Originally Posted by graywolf624
Very disappointing from Michael. I'm starting to lose hope in the comeback.
This is the first time Im starting to feel this way. If they cant get a decent place this race, then Ill really come down and just watch the rest of the season without expecting Ferrari to win. And by decent place I mean a 2,4, or 3,4 considering how badly they qualed.
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Originally Posted by graywolf624
Very disappointing from Michael. I'm starting to lose hope in the comeback.
This is the first time Im starting to feel this way. If they cant get a decent place this race, then Ill really come down and just watch the rest of the season without expecting Ferrari to win. And by decent place I mean a 2,4, or 3,4 considering how badly they qualed.
I felt the same way too....
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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Originally Posted by graywolf624
Very disappointing from Michael. I'm starting to lose hope in the comeback.
This is the first time Im starting to feel this way. If they cant get a decent place this race, then Ill really come down and just watch the rest of the season without expecting Ferrari to win. And by decent place I mean a 2,4, or 3,4 considering how badly they qualed.
Yeah, that kind of sucks man. I have to admit, I have never been a big Ferrari fan, but this year for some reason I am. I want to see him win. I want to see him come back and take it all. I want to see him beat Alonso and Kimi by less than 10 points.

But yeah, this is tough. I guess I always like the under dogs.

But you never know. . . last time at San Marino he qualified 13th and came in 2nd.

Let's go Ferrari!!!
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