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Old 06-28-2008, 04:09 AM   #16
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http://jalopnik.com/396780/dealer-go...rice-of-413000

"I put a deposit down for the 2009 ZR1 about 2 1/2 years ago at "my" chevy dealer from whom I have bought many GM cars, including trucks, vettes. I have probably bought 15+ GM vehicles over the years. I was told 2 1/2 years ago that the price for this "iffy" car would be around the same ratio as the 5K overcharge I paid for my 2006 Z06. I was called to order my ZR1 yesterday since I was #1 on the allocation list of this dealer's 4 allocations. I was told that by the way the price would be between 2-4 times the MSRP. Tadge Juechter, the Chief of Corvette Engineering, has urged GM ZR1 dealers to respect the MSRP. I am very upset with the greed and disregard for customer loyalty in a down economy. Is there any recourse?"
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:23 AM   #17
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The selling price of each ZR1 will be determined by supply and demand.

Simple economics really - if people can afford to pay the asking price, they pay.. if no one wants to pay, the price comes down.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:54 PM   #18
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i imagine if u go thru a dealership instead of going thru kentucky u would run into that this like any other well built car theres not high production number and if u want one of the first its gonna cost u and as far as not beliving the time its already official
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:58 PM   #19
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i wonder if it'll be as tuner friendly as the ford gt
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:30 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by fordgt84 View Post
i wonder if it'll be as tuner friendly as the ford gt
Will the engines be tuner friendly? Absolutely... but who will tune it?

I met with a GM exec earlier... The ZR1 is really more then just the icing on the cake
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:26 PM   #21
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Impressive, all i can say. Finally they posted some numbers to support their arrogance, and here i was becoming sceptical about their claims... Papa vette took the Ring, props to GM for creating such a vehicle.
Now honestly i doubt the 7:26 record will stay there for long, these days everyone seem to be so desperate about the record breaking time at the Nurburgring and we have a bunch of respectable contenders including LF-A, NSX, V-Spec, top of the line DPK 911s, the last Zonda rendition may take a try as well. And i certainly think Chevy themselves can best that time within another couple of sunny day timeattack attempts with Magnussen at the wheel. So, who'll be the next Lord of the Ring? All i can say is it won't be a new Toyota Prius, other than that i'm uncertain...

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Old 06-28-2008, 06:36 PM   #22
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I wanna see them beat this


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Old 06-28-2008, 07:05 PM   #23
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^ Well in Nissan terms and physics the ZR1 did it in 6:26
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:33 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by RC45 View Post
I hope to snap up one of the used ZR1's that will be appearing after the "gotta havve it now" folks get bored with their cars and start dumping em.

Thanksfully it is just a Chevy and will plumet in value over the enxt 5 years hehehe
You could be waiting a while. It could turn into one of those collectors things where it retains it value better than other Chevys.

Anyway, I'd think you would be more than happy with your own creatiion that you're driving now
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:48 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by coloradosilver View Post
You could be waiting a while. It could turn into one of those collectors things where it retains it value better than other Chevys.
I believe that the 1990 ZR-1 cost more in real dollar terms than the 2009 one does, and that had a $75,000+ retail (when regular Vettes cost $30K) to around $30K pretty quickly.

But I am patient

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Anyway, I'd think you would be more than happy with your own creatiion that you're driving now
Oh, I am - but yo uknow the "cost" of a modded car vs a stock car with the same performance - your modded car comes at the expense of all the creature features the stock car has hehe
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:54 PM   #26
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Yeah but is the interior going to be better than the GTR.

If the economy is in the tank the cars may sell at retail. Shelby couldn't get rid of the last of his 427 Cobras. If gas keeps rising there may well be some bargins in the future on alot of the cars we like. But then we may not have the money to buy them.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:19 PM   #27
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Yes, save your dollars for the performance bargains that will result from the coming of the second Malaise! Obama does kind of reminds me of Carter . . .

I'll be looking for a Mustang GT, Solstice, and a 'vette, hehehe
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:50 PM   #28
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Video of the 7:26 lap
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=128886
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:06 PM   #29
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I knew it would look fast but JESUS. That is ridiculous.
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:10 PM   #30
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It's a tuned car - just tuned right at the factory. No surprise it's fast like other tuned cars.

What's more interesting is that the 'vette with its huge 640hp engine for <1500kg of weight, i.e. 425 hp/tonne, did only a bit better than the GTR with measly 275 hp/tonne, and worse than the tuned GTR (V-Spec) with 345 hp/tonne.

And engine power is just a question of tuning, you can have as much as you want; even the small engines of the old Skylines have been tuned to over 1000hp.




They're both slowpokes, though. It's a comparison between Slowbro and Slowking.
Radical SR8, Ariel Atom - now these are cars which do have some speed.
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