Most Underrated/Most Over Rated

[Toronto]

TeflonTron you are a fool, hendrix is amazing, and to say he is over rated shows your ignorance.

you may dislike him that is your choice. but he isn't over rated.

buckethead wouldn't be around if it wasn't for hendrix. also buckethead couldn't hold down a gig for his life (GnR).

buckethead -over rated
hendrix - guitar god.

also can you name some hendrix songs that are over rated? and i don't think you have all of his music, i have over 70LP's of his and there is still more out there... so... you got all of it eh?

[TeflonTron]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that this thread was about expressing our OPINIONS of who is under-rated and who is over-rated? What does holding down a gig have to do with being a good guitarist? Buckethead has done a LOT of music, both under his own name, and with Praxis, along with Death Cube K. GnR was but a small timeframe in his career, nothing more, and it'll probably be the same with Ron Thall (Bumblefoot) who is also a very good guitarist.

As for Hendrix, I don't buy into the legend that he is the be-all and end-all of Guitarists, simply because he is the most famous. Yes, he was innovative and very good, but there are many, many guitarists who could match him note for note, be it shredding, Blues playing, feeling, or whatever. Oh, and for the record, I actually like Hendrix. A lot. I just just think that guitar playing starts and stops with him.

I like the fact that you have more than 70LPs of his, given that he only recorded three studio albums in his life. What are the others that you have? Live recordings and Bootlegs, etc?

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by TeflonTron I like the fact that you have more than 70LPs of his, given that he only recorded three studio albums in his life. What are the others that you have? Live recordings and Bootlegs, etc?

well officially he has 4 studio albums. 3 that most of us know. and 1 that he was working on during the time of his death and his family/estate has released in many different forms. this last album has had many fans upset because most of the songs are overdubbed by other musicians and not noted as so.

but most of my hendrix albums contain unreleased songs that he recorded during his life time at various studios during his career. (either as a session musician or album out takes). also many live albums.

now that said i wouldn't put hendrix up as the best guitarist of all time.
clapton, page, allman... the list goes on and each have their own +/- (yet i think clapton has nevermade a mistake in his life and could out play anyone, also he was the one of the few people hendrix wanted to meet in london [both also have canadian fathers, coincidence?])

buckethead might be under rated in you mind, but since he hasn't backed up his talent IMO enough to be mentioned in the same thread has hendrix.

[nthfinity]

^^^^^

do you have any idea how much music he actually recorded; besides what made it to the studio albumn?

and yes, a lot would be live.... anybody who knows anything about hendrix knows he did things very different for different shows; and everytime it was innovative.

did you know he played an 8 string bass for various songs? let alone his other barage of gypsy insturments.

Ever modern rock, Flamenco, shred, and medolic guitarist points right to him, BB King, , Jimmy Paige, Eric Clapton, and Andres Segovia.... even the mighty Paco de Lucia; Steve Morse, Jerry Garcia, Steve Sweeney, Van Halen, Ynwie Malmsteen.

he was the "god" we say he was because he did everything we say he did, and more.

playing note for note has nothing to do with the ability to write music... let alone to write timeless music; you should know that...

[TeflonTron]

There are many people who have more "ability" than Hendrix did, but I feel that he is so highly regarded because he died young, and was central to that era, the same way that The Beatles were to theirs, and Elvis was to his, etc. As for Buckethead, he has recorded HUGE amounts of music, and almost all of it is innovative, but the problem with that, as I already said, is that most people can't get over his weirdness, and for that he will never be a legend to the mainstream. Yngwie Malmsteem is in the same boat, as is Michael Angelo Batio: both are incredibly talented, but they will pretty much always be seen as Shredders who do nothing but wank over their guitars, so to speak.

I've always been a fan of Buckethead: way before he joined Guns N' Roses. His stuff as "Cobra Strike" was intense.

[Toronto]

ok what is the hendrix's 'era' and the beatles 'era' since they played in the same 'era'?

hendrix could of lived another 27 years and he still would have the same effect on his music (you know when he died he didn't even have a band and was trying to re-unit the experience) yet his short lived life he effected music forever many bands have changed their music (even when he was alive bands fallowed his lead)

[TeflonTron]

Originally Posted by Toronto ok what is the hendrix's 'era' and the beatles 'era' since they played in the same 'era'? hendrix could of lived another 27 years and he still would have the same effect on his music (you know when he died he didn't even have a band and was trying to re-unit the experience) yet his short lived life he effected music forever many bands have changed their music (even when he was alive bands fallowed his lead)

The Beatles had a much longer career though, so encompassed a wider era, is purhaps a better way of saying it. I don't agree that he could have lived longer and still had the same effect on the world. Many, many stars are only as popular as they are because they died young, from James Dean through to Randy Rhodes (another awesome guitarist).

[Toronto]

Originally Posted by TeflonTron Originally Posted by Toronto ok what is the hendrix's 'era' and the beatles 'era' since they played in the same 'era'? hendrix could of lived another 27 years and he still would have the same effect on his music (you know when he died he didn't even have a band and was trying to re-unit the experience) yet his short lived life he effected music forever many bands have changed their music (even when he was alive bands fallowed his lead) The Beatles had a much longer career though, so encompassed a wider era, is purhaps a better way of saying it. I don't agree that he could have lived longer and still had the same effect on the world. Many, many stars are only as popular as they are because they died young, from James Dean through to Randy Rhodes (another awesome guitarist).

4 more years? and the beatles didn't even tour when hendrix was big.
he had an effect on clapton during his life time, and since clapton has had and effect on almost every blues based guitarist... do you see the world would be so diff. with out hendrix. you can't even think of how BIG an effect hendrix had on music.

when Hendrix first came to london, the clubs he played @ were filled with the likes of the beatles, cream, rolling stones, jeff beck and many more big names, they where all amazed @ his style and were all effected by him from the get go.

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by TeflonTron Originally Posted by Toronto ok what is the hendrix's 'era' and the beatles 'era' since they played in the same 'era'? hendrix could of lived another 27 years and he still would have the same effect on his music (you know when he died he didn't even have a band and was trying to re-unit the experience) yet his short lived life he effected music forever many bands have changed their music (even when he was alive bands fallowed his lead) The Beatles had a much longer career though, so encompassed a wider era, is purhaps a better way of saying it. I don't agree that he could have lived longer and still had the same effect on the world. Many, many stars are only as popular as they are because they died young, from James Dean through to Randy Rhodes (another awesome guitarist).

I don't see lost Beatles recordings surfacing every few years

Hendrix was more about the music than the Beatles were. You can hear it in any recording of Purple Haze or Hey Joe (of which there are dozens of variations, depending on when they were recorded)

Ok, sure, Hendrix covered ALOT of songs. But he didn't cover them note for note. He tweaked it and made it his own. He has, and will influence more guitarists than the Beatles ever could have hoped.

Besides, Hendrix cemented his legacy by dying young

[Toronto]

^^^ well there are alot of beatles bootlegs aswell, most of them studio out takes or home recordings. and the biggest one in recent history came out in 1992 the last john and paul session from '74 with stevie wounder (last time john and paul ever played together)

[TeflonTron]

I never suggested, or came close to suggesting, that the Beatles influenced Guitarists.

[Toronto]

^^^ who said you did?

[TNT]

underrated: Blue Man Group

overrated: emo/rap/pop/boy bands.

[ZfrkS62]

i'd even put blue man group in the overrated category. and emo has already been mentioned as over rated

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