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View Poll Results: What is for you the ulimate group b rally car?
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Audi sport quattro/s1
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52.38% |
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Opel manta 400
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1 |
4.76% |
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mg metro 6r4
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0% |
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ford rs 200
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14.29% |
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peugot 205 t16
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0% |
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peugot 205 16 evo 2
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14.29% |
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lancia 037
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0% |
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lancia 037 evo
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4.76% |
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Lancia s4 abarth
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2 |
9.52% |
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renault 5 turbo maxi
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0% |
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Mazda rx7 group b version
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0% |
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toyote celica
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0% |
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citroen bx 4x4
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0% |
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Toyota Celica Twincam Turbo
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10-10-2007, 09:42 AM
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The ulimate group b rally car
What is for you the ulimate group b rally car?
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10-10-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by insane
Haven't we already had this poll?  |
I don't kown could be.
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10-10-2007, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
It's easy to pick my fav - which is the Audi Sport Quattro S1... that even if it wasn't a winning car, it was what group B rallyes were all about 
What isn't that easy would be to pick a top 3 - it would probably be the S1, the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo and the Lancia Delta S4 (that I started to adore last weekend at San Marino - such a crazy car!!)  |
From the rwd group cars i prefur the opel manta 400 best tharmac car i beat the awd supercars on rally's like the circuit of ireland and the renault 5 maxi turbo
For the awd group b rallycars the lancia delta s4 ford rs 200 and the peugot 205 t16 and the audi s1.
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10-10-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by insane
I'd have to go with the S1 as well. It wasn't the best Group B car, not by a long shot. It had its engine in the front for instance, giving it terrible understeer. But the way it looks, the way it sounds and the way it goes is everything that Group B means to me. Over the top and spectacular.
You have got some interesting choises in the poll though. Like the Citroen BX, I think that only contested one rally and was never seen again. And the Opel Manta and some other cars that never really made it in a world class level.  |
The opel manta 400 is meant for the national rally championship and for the european rally championship.
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10-10-2007, 12:49 PM
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I voted for the RS200.. that thing was so fucking tiny compared to some of the others, it was mid engined, AND was capable over over 500hp+
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10-10-2007, 03:59 PM
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The 205 T16's were fucking beasts! Definitely my favorite from that era.
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10-10-2007, 05:58 PM
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The Peugeot 205 T16 is my personal favorite. I still have a poster of this car hanging above my bed.
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10-11-2007, 03:16 PM
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I think for tarmac endurance rally events the opel manta 400 is king.
Great examples of a opel manta 400's on tarmac
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10-11-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex
I voted for the RS200.. that thing was so fucking tiny compared to some of the others, it was mid engined, AND was capable over over 500hp+
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Tiny? They aren't huge for sure... but no MG Metro.
500+ hp? Stig Blomquist personal RS200 street car RS200 Evo is 700 + hp even today
Also my favorite rally car.
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10-14-2007, 12:21 PM
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Personly i am a huge fan of the metro 6r4 the only group b car that is still competive today.
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10-14-2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
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Originally Posted by pagani
Personly i am a huge fan of the metro 6r4 the only group b car that is still competive today.
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Competitive today? 
Against what? other group B rallycars from 1986? |
Wrc cars and the like.
You be amazed how competive the 6r4 still is.
http://mgmetro6r4.16.forumer.com/viewforum.php?f=4
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10-14-2007, 04:07 PM
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Even the group A cars were faster than the group B from 1991 (just 16 years ago now)
On the other hand, about the ultimate group B car, for me the favourite one is the pug 205 Turbo 16 Evo II, simply because it was the most proficient car on tarmac, gravel...wherever, a very fast car, very reliable.....when the group was banned in 1986
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10-14-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford Capri 2.8i
Even the group A cars were faster than the group B from 1991 (just 16 years ago now)
On the other hand, about the ultimate group B car, for me the favourite one is the pug 205 Turbo 16 Evo II, simply because it was the most proficient car on tarmac, gravel...wherever, a very fast car, very reliable.....when the group was banned in 1986
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Their few updated 6r4 cars around
Here interesting comment
About a one who drove a ford focuswrc and now drives 6r4
Whit the mods and setup the 6r4 can be just as good as any current wrc car and much more fun to drive and watch.
The car handles very similarly to the 99 focuswrc i had but turns in alot better. i got the car set up at ali burrows motorsport who sets up rallycross cars . the acceleration is alot better than the 2002focus it had and the brakes just as good. I need now the get my braking right i was braking way to early on sat . I have i car video system but forgot to bring it with me on sat but will on sat 20th at the new year stages at kirkstown again hope to photos by 1 today. was really happy with the car on sat and the gearbox the clutch release bearing was a new hydraulic one just one of those things . i have two more events before the championship starts to get all the problems sorted. also got a new major sponsor signed up on sat that i was not expecting as he was impressed with car which means i can do a few more events next year.
And read this
Note the tread below some of these accely drive the 6r4 in rally's
http://mgmetro6r4.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=243
Tony pond drove for mg in the and he said that the mg metro 6r4 had better handling than all the other group b rallycars.
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10-15-2007, 03:59 PM
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Here is a great tribute video of the mg metro 6r4
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10-15-2007, 05:53 PM
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The Audi S1 has to be the ultimate, noise alone wins that for it. I remember when I was at school, following the British Rally Championship, for years Audi had dominated the loose surface rounds of the championship but when it came to the sealed surface events they always got beat by the Manta 400's, then one weekend in 1984 all that changed, Walter Rohrl had sent his co-driver over to Northern Ireland a few days prior to the start of the Ulster Rally to take pace notes, Rohrl then just drove the stages that would be run in darkness once to check the notes, the daylight ones he just trusted his co-driver! He then set off on a rally he had never competed in before and gave the established drivers a demonstration in driving. Here is a film of that ultimate combination of Rohrl and Audi S1.
1984 Ulster Rally
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