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DjPtsatsot · 07-20-2004, 06:47 PM

well, i am not too saddened, but maybe this means there will be a new Toyauto (

) Supra to follow?

hemi_fan · 07-20-2004, 10:21 PM

im not gunna lose sleep over it either... i never really liked the celica as it was FWD with a 4 cylinder engine... not my cup o' tea.

ae86_16v · 07-20-2004, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by possessed_beaver

i hope they bring back the GT4 or a car to reflect toyota's involvment in forumla 1.

That's what they've been saying since the beginning. Maybe they should start winning. 3rd year into the program and people are already talking about cancelling it. I remember when they debuted they said they'll be competing for the championship by the 3rd year.

I highly doubt that they Tc will be AWD, considering that it is suppose to be a "cheap" car. I saw the commercial of one the other day, that thing looks pretty sexy.

I don't mind them canceling it, Toyota needs to refocus anyways.

PaulGT2164 · 07-21-2004, 12:05 AM

"I highly doubt that they Tc will be AWD, considering that it is suppose to be a "cheap" car. I saw the commercial of one the other day, that thing looks pretty sexy. "

maybe not the Tc, but the chassis is capable, so maybe a toyota branded spin off, thats what i said

"That's what they've been saying since the beginning. Maybe they should start winning. 3rd year into the program and people are already talking about cancelling it. I remember when they debuted they said they'll be competing for the championship by the 3rd year"

true, they were a little over ambitious, but in their other motorsports categories they took over (NHRA, Nascar truck, etc) lol i thinks its great they are doind so well in their first year of nascar truck series, as a magazine once said after the NHRA celica won, and after the awesome standings of the nascar truck series, they said Z"what does this mean? even the rednecks will drive camrys soon" lol

but oh well it is sad toyota is stopping the celica from being sold here, but its all part of a bigger plan, and i cant wait to see what new comes out!

aks · 07-21-2004, 01:44 AM

but oh well it is sad toyota is stopping the celica from being sold here, but its all part of a bigger plan, and i cant wait to see what new comes out!

i can't wait either! if the rumours are true and an s2000 competitor is comin from Toyota, then it's sure as hell gonna be one heck of a car!

oldsnail · 07-21-2004, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by aks

but oh well it is sad toyota is stopping the celica from being sold here, but its all part of a bigger plan, and i cant wait to see what new comes out!

i can't wait either! if the rumours are true and an s2000 competitor is comin from Toyota, then it's sure as hell gonna be one heck of a car!

trd put a 2zz-ge in an MRS, and that is enough to keep the s2000 busy..
too bad that engine is featured in lotus now now..

as for the 3sgte for rally racing and celica gt4, it was was replaced with a modifeid beams 3sge in the corolla to compete.

aks · 07-21-2004, 03:30 AM

just imagine what trd would do with a stock s2000 competitor!!

PaulGT2164 · 07-21-2004, 03:36 AM

one of these days im gonna buy a 2000+ mr2 spyder and put a 2ZZ in it....
i have some best motoring vids with that and they are awesome

itsthepham · 07-21-2004, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by PaulGT2164

one of these days im gonna buy a 2000+ mr2 spyder and put a 2ZZ in it....
i have some best motoring vids with that and they are awesome

Hell yeah, i have that dvd with the techno spirit MRS. that car hauls ass in that video. especially during the touge section.

Ford Capri 2.8i · 07-21-2004, 02:55 PM

Although the source is good....its difficult for me to believe this fact one both cars have had a lot of success in Japan, the USA and in Europe...if the car werent very successfull.....for example the VW corrado wasnt very successfull during its stay on market....id believe it easily..........see what happens anyway.....the life is very long

sikx5 · 07-21-2004, 10:36 PM

The celica lost the plot after the st205. They just became more ugly and slow and a complete chicks car. quite dissapointing. I have been in the market for a st185 group A version but have yet to find a nice one in australia.

The ST205 would be awesome car for sure and i am buying one someday, even though they have huge KM's and still cost a fair bit. In japan you can buy a 1996 ST205 for less than $30,000AU for a car which has less than 50,000KM. A bargin really considering to buy a 1994 Group A ST205 in Australia with more than 120,000KM costs around $30,000. bit frustrating :x

Josh · 07-22-2004, 11:01 AM

Maybe they should make a new car inplace of the supra it is gettin very old
maybe they should do sumthin like the new 2007 skyline make it more prestiege lookin
!!NOT!!

PaulGT2164 · 07-22-2004, 12:09 PM

"The celica lost the plot after the st205. They just became more ugly and slow and a complete chicks car. quite dissapointing. I have been in the market for a st185 group A version but have yet to find a nice one in australia."

the 1994-1999 models i think where the best looking celicas to day, curvy, and sexy

the 5sfe motor put down 150 hp in the 1994 pre-OBD-2 version and was pretty lightweight (under 2500lbs for the coupe version) so it was in the faster category of the cars in it class. my 1994 coupe, with a exhaust, intake, and modified throttle body could tick off the quarter mile in high 14s, which is not bad at all, but the most fun came with the turbo lol, i didnt get a chance to run it at the track before i sold the motor, but there wasnt much that could out accelerate me =)

the 2000+ GTS 6 speed was awesome, 0-60 in sub 7 secs and 180hp

with the EVO, the STi, the GTO, the coming Skyline, etc toyota will bring a car here to combat them, they are just sitting back and watching the market, they are smart like that....and they will count on the popularity and general badassness of the supra to help sell it, so it should have some of the attributes.....what i like about the conceptual drawings/models or the next supras and skylines, is that all i have seen keep the same style tailights

which makes me happy.

and given the fact most of the general public (people who use cars as mere transportation...ugh) are still in love with the huge deathboxes known as sport utilities the tree hugging hippies havent noticed all the high power sports / gt cars that are coming out, so i can see a revival of the "big 4" (3000gt, rx-7, supra, 300zx) coming soon, we have the 3000gt replacement (EVO, sorta) the 300zx replacement (350z) and rumours of the next rx-7 and supra are rampant....its gonna be a good next few years in the car market

and luckily american manufacturers are somewhat stepping up to the challenge, with the new gto, solstice, etc

so my fellow brothers, and occasional sister, the time is upon us ! to rejoice in our sports cars, and drive them towards our salvation of speed! for do not let the evil car hating suvs get us down in out missions, my brothers! spred the word, spred the horsepower, and god bless all your pistons, and occasional rotors!

sentra_dude · 07-22-2004, 12:50 PM

150hp from 5SFE? Really...how can I get power like that from my 5SFE?

Glad to see another Celica driver, although I'm somewhat envious because you get to drive the serious Celicas...while I am lucky to even see a GT4.

PaulGT2164 · 07-22-2004, 12:56 PM

depending on the year of the car, the 5sfe offered anywhere between 135-150HP
your 1992 model should be on the upside of 140 - 145

the motor is also shared in the camry

burien toyota (www.poweredbytoyota.com) has a really nice turbo kit (i have had it before)

and www.raceeng.com has pistons and rings and rods for the 5sfe

to get cams, go to www.webcamshafts.com, they have stage one and two cams

the 5sfe is a gooood motor, i like it

i have a ton of pics of the 1990 alltrac and my 1988 ill post later
and maybe a video or two of the 1990 model at the track, where in the 1/8th mile, completely stock (except for a trd spec turbo) it ran a 10 flat on its first run