New Z06 pictures

[RC45]

Originally Posted by godspeed06 Originally Posted by godspeed06 i know this is killing you, and dont give me that shit about the z06 just being a "modded" base vette either bc thats just silly, Originally Posted by RC45 No it's not killing me - if it was I wouldn't have lept my "slow 385hp 2001 Z06" - I would have upgraded to the '02, '03 or '04 405hp car - I don't NEED the latest an greatest to thoroughly enjoy my car. And - where have I ever said the Z06 is "just" a modded Coupe? By it's very nature it requires not easily duplicated changes - in the C5 Z06 it is the FRC body that lends extra rigidity, and in the C6 Z06 it is the fixed roof panel that provides this torsional rigidity lost with using the aluminium frame. Originally Posted by RC45 505hp is not "extreme hp" for a 427ci small block - just witness all theC5R 427ci small blocks that have been installed into C5 Z06 for 4 years now. So - the C6 Z06 is really just a factory endorsed mod that happens to follow the same formula that private citizens have been doing - as I say - for 4 years now... 427ci small block crate motor installs. The C5R crate motor was as cose to an option as you could get... So - comparing a C5R equipped C5 Z06 or a hot cam header C5Z06 to the C6 Z06 is very valid.. And I am sure you assume I am bullshitting you but - 500 crank hp from the LS6 is as simple as a cam install, tune and headers - 550hp is only a set of heads away... really it is. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that the factory C6 Z06 is ismply a - you guessed it, hotrod 427ci big cam, heads and cam car.

That in no way says that the the C6 Z06 is a modded COUPE (or in your terms "base Vette"). -- It is a modded C5 Z06.... HUGE difference.

Nice try, but not cigar...

I am way ahead of you on the nuances of Corvette variants..

[godspeed06]

oh you got lucky on my word choice you bastard . but even so, if you are comparing a c5 z06 your logic would be easily enough followed with the coupe. if you are doing a mod as extensive as dropping a whole new c5r engine in there, im sure the suspension and brakes wouldnt be too far out of the modder's range... using your logic, im sure there are people with modded base c5s saying the same thing. and youre both wrong. :shock:

[RC45]

Originally Posted by godspeed06 oh you got lucky on my word choice you bastard . but even so, if you are comparing a c5 z06 your logic would be easily enough followed with the coupe. if you are doing a mod as extensive as dropping a whole new c5r engine in there, im sure the suspension and brakes wouldnt be too far out of the modder's range... using your logic, im sure there are people with modded base c5s saying the same thing. and youre both wrong. :shock:

Well - sad to say, the C6 Z51 is nothing but a modded C5 Z51, and the changes are easily taken care of in that department

Take our own Coloradosilver as an example - his modded C5 coupe will kick the leaving bezeeezus out of my car - period... (in a strainght line )

Now his car with a Z06 shock and sway bar, Z06 wheel and tyre ugrade will run with me in the twisties and anihilate me on the straights - the beating he would hand down to a stock C6 Z51 would be just as painful.. - only thing is still looks like a staiton wagon with that big-ol hatch out back

I have been in the woods and tried to run and gun with suspension modded/heads cam C5 Z51's - and it is not easy to overcome the extra 100hp they have.

I guess it hard for non-Vett drivers to appreciate just how good the C5 is. It is not a "bad" car - it is a compromised car, whose compromises are easily and cheaply dispatched with.

We are talking by orders of magnitude cheaper than BMW or Porsche.

And the number one reason why comparing modded to stock to modded is valid is because the OTHER guy you run into on the street is probably not stock anyway - so the "debate" is limited to magazine racers

Driving reality is a lot different - you rarely meet up with a stock car.



Now of course the C6 Z51's that are already modded are eclipsing STOCK C5 Z06's - but by the same token the strong modded C5 Z06's not only squash C6 Z51's like bugs, they are already performance equals to the upcoming C6 Z06 - and OF COURSE as soon as the C6 Z06 hits the street, those with deep pockets will mod their cars to Carrera GT and beyond levels in the first month.

So again, the modded C5 Z06 vs stock C6 Z06 debate will be moot, because the wealthy punter will again kick your backside back to your mammas basement.. hehe

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\90% of the time a modded Ferrari means "Tubi Pipes" which is all about sound more then anything. And 70% of "modded" Porkers are just running the plastic bits from the high end product, like a Carrera with GT3 bits......

[graywolf624]

90% of the time a modded Ferrari means "Tubi Pipes" which is all about sound more then anything. And 70% of "modded" Porkers are just running the plastic bits from the high end product, like a Carrera with GT3 bits......

And that is the market for the blue devil..

[godspeed06]

those with deep pockets will mod their cars to Carrera GT and beyond levels in the first month.

i cant wait for that 8). when they test a twin turbo c6 z06... holy shit. you better watch the fuck out. btw, i should be driving a c6 z06 within the next few weeks 8). ill post pics and possibly a vid, but i dont know the rules gm has as far as teh test fleet vehicles... and um, as far as that goes, i wont be driving one .

[RC45]

Originally Posted by godspeed06 those with deep pockets will mod their cars to Carrera GT and beyond levels in the first month. i cant wait for that 8). when they test a twin turbo c6 z06... holy shit. you better watch the fuck out. btw, i should be driving a c6 z06 within the next few weeks 8). ill post pics and possibly a vid, but i dont know the rules gm has as far as teh test fleet vehicles... and um, as far as that goes, i wont be driving one .

Well, there is a rumoured local with dibs on one of, if not the first C6 Z)6 in town - and the plan is to max the car out the moment it arrives.

[godspeed06]

who is he going to get to mod it? or will he do it himself?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by godspeed06 who is he going to get to mod it? or will he do it himself?

Well, apart from LPE (which is frankly a little over rated ) all the tuners are really "moddign the car for someone" so in effect the owner is "doing it himself" - just the same way Jay Leno does

He doesn't wrench himself, he just shovels money at the guy who does.

The "self tuners" are really just installing tuner proven formulas themselves. Which is understandable, since few "privateers" have the resources to play with the options until the find the right mix.

Oh - you mean which tuner is doing the work? - I am not at liberty to divulge that at this time - but the rumour is that the same aggressive timetable that was followed for his 455ci GTO will be follwed for the Z06 - as in the car will be torn down with and the mods start with zero miles on.

It's going to be some kind of test bed.

But who really knows, they are just rumours - which seem a little fanciful, but you never know.

[godspeed06]

seems a little ridiculous to take a car like the z06 and tear it down before ever experiencing what its like stock.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by godspeed06 seems a little ridiculous to take a car like the z06 and tear it down before ever experiencing what its like stock.

Bottomless pockets will do that to you - besides, thats exactly what happens when proddy race teams get their new cars - they dive right in and fix all the stuff the factory fucked up

[SFDMALEX]

Why do that? Is it not good enough stock

Honestly, I hate these damn tunners. Unless the car just has flaws I see no need in touching it if what your doing is driving it on the streets. If you want a track car its a different story, do what ever your "deep pockets" allow you to.

But damn when you have engineers working on that right power curve, refined engine, overall balance and you have some clown stick a super charger in there, making some extra 200bhp, stresing out the chassis without giving them proper support.............just wrong man.

If you radicaly going to change your "stock" car then build a RACECAR!

[RC45]

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Why do that? Is it not good enough stock Honestly, I hate these damn tunners. Unless the car just has flaws I see no need in touching it if what your doing is driving it on the streets. If you want a track car its a different story, do what ever your "deep pockets" allow you to. But damn when you have engineers working on that right power curve, refined engine, overall balance and you have some clown stick a super charger in there, making some extra 200bhp, stresing out the chassis without giving them proper support.............just wrong man. If you radicaly going to change your "stock" car then build a RACECAR!

Well - remember many times that homologtion editions of cars are provided with certain components that are robust (the main homologation parts - such as chassis, block and other specifics as requird my series rules) then the rest are compromises.

Even the Enzo and Carrera GT are such cars -

[666fast]

If you radicaly going to change your "stock" car then build a RACECAR!

Racecars are not street legal. And not everyone has a track near them.

[SFDMALEX]

Not like you can exploit your cars ability on the street. Therefore if you build some 600bhp car you have no choice but to take it to the track in order to get anything out of that power, or else you just waist your time and money.

You dont need a supercharged Vette for a 100mph cruise speed down the highway.