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TeflonTron · 08-17-2006, 01:21 PM

The McLaren's engine is derived from the M5/5 Series, if I remember correctly.

5vz-fe · 08-17-2006, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by TeflonTron

The McLaren's engine is derived from the M5/5 Series, if I remember correctly.

M5 at that time is using a Straight 6 3.4

Probably from 750, 850's V12

M70B50 -> S70B56 -> S70/1 (prototype) -> S70/2 (93 Macca F1) -> S70/3 (96 Macca F1)

nthfinity · 08-17-2006, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe

Originally Posted by TeflonTron

The McLaren's engine is derived from the M5/5 Series, if I remember correctly.

M5 at that time is using a Straight 6 3.4

Probably from 750, 850's V12

M70B50 -> S70B56 -> S70/1 (prototype) -> S70/2 (93 Macca F1) -> S70/3 (96 Macca F1)

not that I know.... but is it perhaps not based off any other engine? IT just is its' own design?

rave426 · 08-17-2006, 02:27 PM

The engine was specially designed for the F1.

Macca gave BMW their requirements and BMW followed through. Actually the engine was heavier than Macca asked for, but BMW also gave them more power then they asked for.........So it all worked out.

I really dont think it was derived from any existing engine........at least from what i know.

Edit -the guy above was right

Well.......It's "roots" seem to be from the engine in the special edition bmw 850CSi BMW Motorsports Vehicle..............but I really doubt anything is the same except for the base block, because the 850 made no where near the amount of power the F1 did.

So all in all........yes it was custom built based of nothin really.......IMO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_F1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M70#S70B56

McLarenboy · 08-17-2006, 03:42 PM

nthfinity is just looking for some attention, we should only really listen to people who actually driven it! And even then your personal opinion still isen't made up about a car until you have driven it yourself.

let's forget this video concerning the handling of the car for this reason

btw: an american driving a hardcore european racer dating a couple of years ago. No way he's got skills to control that car :fist:

TeflonTron · 08-17-2006, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe

Originally Posted by TeflonTron

The McLaren's engine is derived from the M5/5 Series, if I remember correctly.

M5 at that time is using a Straight 6 3.4

Probably from 750, 850's V12

M70B50 -> S70B56 -> S70/1 (prototype) -> S70/2 (93 Macca F1) -> S70/3 (96 Macca F1)

Yes, that's it: the 850! I remembered the "5" in the model name and misremembered it as a 5-Series.

LotusGT1 · 08-17-2006, 04:12 PM

BMW's motorsport division BMW M custom-built a 6.1 L (6064 cc) 60-degree V12 BMW S70B56 engine with aluminum alloy block and head, 86 mm x 87 mm bore/stroke, quad overhead camshafts for maximum flexibility of control over the four valves/cylinder and chain drive for the camshafts for maximum reliability. The resulting engine was slightly heavier than Murray had originally specified but also considerably more powerful.

It was custom built.

Originally Posted by McLarenboy

btw: an american driving a hardcore european racer dating a couple of years ago. No way he's got skills to control that car :fist:

Don't be stupid.

5vz-fe · 08-17-2006, 04:15 PM

http://www.vrchlabi.cz/e30/ruzne/enginenumber/

S70 S70B56 5576ccm V12 2 380 @ 5300 550 @ 4000 1992 ? Chain 165 no E31 850CSi //M Tweaked M70
S70/1 6064ccm 4 550 1990 86x87 VANOS E31 M8 (concept, unofficial car)
S70/2 627@7400 651 @ 7000 1993 266 TAG DME McLaren F1 double M3 ?

S70/3 635 1996 McLaren F1

oh, I mean derive from, not really from from 750, 850

rave426 · 08-17-2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by McLarenboy

btw: an american driving a hardcore european racer dating a couple of years ago. No way he's got skills to control that car :fist:

Hey guy, u need to speak for your own driving, and not worry about generalizing about how an ENTIRE COUNTRY of people drive.

Comments like that usually come from people who cant do it themselves.

jakaracman · 08-17-2006, 05:55 PM

It's just that this guy cant handle this car. And it's not the car's fault. He's really too slow, imprecise with steering and uncooordinated with throttle ...

pitfield · 08-17-2006, 06:12 PM

loving how much coke that guy and his missus had just snorted in the car park before going into the McLaren showroom, off their heads. Safe.

I'd be over the moon, i'll take mine in white with black wheels. Shame I'd be wishing I'd bought the LM edition parked in front of me.

novass · 08-17-2006, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by McLarenboy

btw: an american driving a hardcore european racer dating a couple of years ago. No way he's got skills to control that car :fist:

Go make a waffle, moron :fist:

nthfinity · 08-17-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by pitfield

loving how much coke that guy and his missus had just snorted in the car park before going into the McLaren showroom, off their heads. Safe.

I'd be over the moon, i'll take mine in white with black wheels. Shame I'd be wishing I'd bought the LM edition parked in front of me.

and you are basing this off of what?

you seriously have some serious issues.

Am i looking for attention? no.

This is a valid debate.

thanks Lotus, i had thought the engine was a special development specifically for the F1; and not based off another car.

BTW McLarenboy, what are you basing this opinion on?

saadie · 08-18-2006, 12:42 AM

maccas engine was developed specially for it .....
it came out 30 to 60 kg's heavier then the requierment ..

maybe thast why the car is sooo muucchhh twitchy

nthfinity · 08-18-2006, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by saadie

maccas engine was developed specially for it .....
it came out 30 to 60 kg's heavier then the requierment ..

maybe thast why the car is sooo muucchhh twitchy

you see.. here's the problem with that... they tested thier cars with the engine; so they obviously could've worked out its understeer ---> snap murder over steer etc. issues in testing.... they are afterall, race engineers