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[Schwalbe]

Originally Posted by st-anger Originally Posted by Schwalbe JG 44 OMG :shock: :shock: The price of this "Porsche Design Indicator" is EUR 65,000 ! St-Anger you never will stop to surprise me with your Porsche AG. infos. you´ll get a Cayenne S for that :shock:

I believe that "the more rational choice" is to buy a Cayenne S instead of a watch. Otherwise this Porsche Design Indicator is the perfect watch for CGT drivers. Those drivers can easily buy it.

[st-anger]

Originally Posted by HoboPie What do you think of the CGTs recent performance in C&D?

hmmm, don´t know, to be honest i´m still waiting for the second "Sport Auto" test, i don´t know anything about the C&D test conditions, ......
but definitely some very impressive figures they managed, but again a press car, and as i already posted here in "Pn" the production cars should be even faster, maybe not that much e.g. at 0-62, but definitely at the track, e.g. NS...

[HoboPie]

Aaaah, that test put the Carrera GT crazily close the Enzo in a straightline. That isn't to say either car can't be tested faster, but the C&D test did have condition adjustment.

6.8 seconds to 100mph is a good 2 tenths better than I was ever expecting.

[lakatu]

[quote="lakatu"]

Originally Posted by st-anger looking for an decent and effordable Porsche it´s definitely a good desicion to go for a modell after ´86 because there´s a significant quality/power output/handling difference to the sub ´86 modells st-anger the information you provide here is incredibly useful and informative. I've just spent the past several days reading old posts. I have a question about your reply to the post concerning a 1987 911. I am aware of a change in the G50 transmission and increased power but I wasn't aware of any suspension or handling changes from 1987-89 to the 911. Was there any or were you referring to the 964, 993 & 996 being better handling? Also, it seems that you have either driven or have knowledge about the relative handling differences between the evolution from the 3.2L Carrera to the current 996. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind describing the technical changes and how or why they contributed to the improved cornering abilities and neutrality. Do you know the different NS lap times or estimated relative cornering speeds for the 4 different models? For example, how much faster would a 996 be able to take a corner verses the other models. Finally, in the U.S. 911's are commonly lowered to "Euro-spec". Do you know what the difference in ride height between the European and the U.S.version of the 1987 3.2L. I know that in the early 70's there was a height difference due to the bumper regulations in the U.S. but I am not sure if that carried over to the 1987 model. If so do you know what type of an impact this had on the U.S. 3.2L's handling capabilities? I read an old Road & Track test conducted in Germany of the 944T and 911 3.2L that seemed to indicate the European version of the 911 handled better than the U.S. version. Thanks for all the insight and knowledge you've shared on this website.

I finally found the answer to a question that I posed a while back concerning the difference in ride height of 1970's-80's 911's in the U.S. verses European models due to bumper regulations. The answer was in Paul Frere's book "Porsche 911 Story" Paul says: "It should be noted, however, that 1975 to 1982 models exported to the USA have their suspensions raised by 8.5 mm to meet bumper height regulations. They can easily be lowered, but in that case it is recommended that the rubber bump stop in the shock absorber should be exchanged for the shorter European type."

8.5 mm isn’t very much and I am not sure if it would noticeably change handling characteristics. But I find it interesting that the cars height was set by Porsche higher than it considered optimal due to bureaucratic regulations. It would be interesting to know to what extent regulations from different countries along with other factors for example legal liability have reached into the design and forced Porsche to build their cars differently than they would have if left on their own.

[st-anger]

[quote="lakatu"]

Originally Posted by lakatu Originally Posted by st-anger looking for an decent and effordable Porsche it´s definitely a good desicion to go for a modell after ´86 because there´s a significant quality/power output/handling difference to the sub ´86 modells st-anger the information you provide here is incredibly useful and informative. I've just spent the past several days reading old posts. I have a question about your reply to the post concerning a 1987 911. I am aware of a change in the G50 transmission and increased power but I wasn't aware of any suspension or handling changes from 1987-89 to the 911. Was there any or were you referring to the 964, 993 & 996 being better handling? Also, it seems that you have either driven or have knowledge about the relative handling differences between the evolution from the 3.2L Carrera to the current 996. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind describing the technical changes and how or why they contributed to the improved cornering abilities and neutrality. Do you know the different NS lap times or estimated relative cornering speeds for the 4 different models? For example, how much faster would a 996 be able to take a corner verses the other models. Finally, in the U.S. 911's are commonly lowered to "Euro-spec". Do you know what the difference in ride height between the European and the U.S.version of the 1987 3.2L. I know that in the early 70's there was a height difference due to the bumper regulations in the U.S. but I am not sure if that carried over to the 1987 model. If so do you know what type of an impact this had on the U.S. 3.2L's handling capabilities? I read an old Road & Track test conducted in Germany of the 944T and 911 3.2L that seemed to indicate the European version of the 911 handled better than the U.S. version. Thanks for all the insight and knowledge you've shared on this website. I finally found the answer to a question that I posed a while back concerning the difference in ride height of 1970's-80's 911's in the U.S. verses European models due to bumper regulations. The answer was in Paul Frere's book "Porsche 911 Story" Paul says: "It should be noted, however, that 1975 to 1982 models exported to the USA have their suspensions raised by 8.5 mm to meet bumper height regulations. They can easily be lowered, but in that case it is recommended that the rubber bump stop in the shock absorber should be exchanged for the shorter European type." 8.5 mm isn’t very much and I am not sure if it would noticeably change handling characteristics. But I find it interesting that the cars height was set by Porsche higher than it considered optimal due to bureaucratic regulations. It would be interesting to know to what extent regulations from different countries along with other factors for example legal liability have reached into the design and forced Porsche to build their cars differently than they would have if left on their own.

you ´ll find some infos on handling changes from ´87 in "model overview"...

[SamuraiGti]

some more pictures...

yellow...



















or red?

[st-anger]

it´s done....
official 997 pics and specs are now available on the net...

sorry for not providing them earlier, but i´ve to stick to some rules, and some don´t have to....


"C2"




"S"





For the first time since 1977, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is launching two new 911 models at the same time: the 911 Carrera with a 239 KW (325 BHP), 3.6 litre boxer engine, and the 911 Carrera S, powered by a newly developed 3.8 litre engine, which delivers 261 KW (355 BHP). With torque of 400 Newton meters, the S model surges from zero to 100 kph in 4.8 seconds. The Carrera does this in exactly five seconds. Top speeds for the Carrera and Carrera S are 285 kph and 293 kph respectively. The two 911 models from the 997 series will be launched across Europe on 17 July 2004 (with the exception of the right-hand drive market in Great Britain).

Both 911 models have a newly developed six-speed gearbox and a reworked chassis, which includes active suspension as standard in the S model. For the 911 Carrera, this chassis, called "Porsche Active Suspension Management", can be supplied on request. In the "normal" position, PASM provides a sporty and comfortable balance to the suspension; pressing the "sport" button, however, makes the suspension firmer which enables the car to be driven in a particularly agile and sporty way. In addition to PASM, a further option for both models is sports suspension, which is lower by 20 mm, with a mechanical rear inter-wheel differential lock.

The format of the wheels and tyres has also evolved: the 911 Carrera now has, as standard, 18J x 18 size wheels with 235/40 ZR 18 tyres (front) and 10J x 18 with 265/40 ZR 18 tyres at the rear. The Carrera S is equipped with 19 inch rim/tyres, size 8J x 19, with 235/35 ZR 19 (front axle) and 11J x 19 with 295/30 ZR 19 (rear axle).

The design of the Porsche 911 is a logical continuation of the 911 story, now over 40 years old. The result of the new exterior design – including a wider track and more emphasis on the waist – is a 911 which is even more dynamic, clear, powerful and, at the same time, elegant. Other striking features of the evolutionary design are the new circular headlamps with separate additional headlamps in the nose area, more prominent fenders, dual-arm exterior mirrors, altered seam characteristics and a more aerodynamic rear spoiler.

The basis price for the 911 Carrera is EUR 64,700 and EUR 73,300 for the 911 Carrera S. In Germany, these prices (including VAT and country-requirements) are EUR 75,200 for the Carrera and EUR 85,176 for the Carrera S.

http://www3.porsche.com/TheNew911/pd.asp

[gucom]

is it just me or is the rear end really going down a bit steeper than in the 996? I'd like to see the other versions of the 997, like the Turbo and GT2/GT3. I think ill have to have some patience for that though...

[Chingachgook]

I don't like the neew headlights, maube in person they'll look better.
ANd the interior, the clock in the dashboard...the gearlever taken fron the Golf... there's something wrong

HR ones:

[st-anger]

clock is optional in the "chrono" package...

don´t be too strict about the design, just take some time to look closer, i definitely like it way more than the 996...

and what really counts is performance

7:56min at the NS for the "S".... :shock: ....same as MkI GT3 ( 360HP, 7:57min)...

it´ll be a great model range, believe me

[st-anger]

so, again a great car from 9ff, at the the "Conti Sport Contact 2 Vmax" presentation set up by Continental at Nardo racetrack a 9ff 9F-T6 with 743hp did 233mph....GPS measured :shock:

http://www.9ff.de/


hope to get more infos soon....

[DMbaseball1604]

st-anger, I remember reading that you sais that RS-tuning was the best Porsche Tuner...I was wondering what is it about them that you like...if I'm not mistaken the Gemballa GTR 750 offers up more power at around 845bhp

[st-anger]

Originally Posted by DMbaseball1604 st-anger, I remember reading that you sais that RS-tuning was the best Porsche Tuner...I was wondering what is it about them that you like...if I'm not mistaken the Gemballa GTR 750 offers up more power at around 845bhp

...i´ve already talked about that in "Pn", sorry but i´m afraid i don´t have the time right now to answer that exactely, right now i´m working ~16hours per day, so there isn´t that much time for JW...
just a short answer, i know all the decent Porsche tuner quite well and i think i can compare them kinda impartial, and i came to the conclusion that RS is the best company for engine tuning, and that´s the point: engine/performance tuning only!!! RS is very well know in racing too, and here the main point: they´re useing original Porsche racing parts...
so they´re extremely reliable and offer great performance...
so trust me, e.g. on a GT2 i´d go for RS engine tuning and TechArt or 9ff bodykit...

[yg60m]

Originally Posted by st anger ...i´ve already talked about that in "Pn", sorry but i´m afraid i don´t have the time right now to answer that exactely, right now i´m working ~16hours per day, so there isn´t that much time for JW... just a short answer, i know all the decent Porsche tuner quite well and i think i can compare them kinda impartial, and i came to the conclusion that RS is the best company for engine tuning, and that´s the point: engine/performance tuning only!!! RS is very well know in racing too, and here the main point: they´re useing original Porsche racing parts... so they´re extremely reliable and offer great performance... so trust me, e.g. on a GT2 i´d go for RS engine tuning and TechArt or 9ff bodykit...

I trust you mate, power is not the only thing, every tuner can get 1000 bhp from the flat 6 but RS Tuning take care of reliability and driveability too, they work with Porsche competition pieces and some Porsche tuners ask RS to tune engines for them .