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Old 10-11-2004, 01:26 AM   #46
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Hey everso, love the TT mate; a future classic shape for sure.
Can you left foot brake(or trail brake) it on the track without brake force dist or similar intervention?
Does the ESP completely disable or does it just raise the threshold?
Love Audi but have been put off by all the gadgets spoiling trackday fun.
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Old 10-11-2004, 02:53 AM   #47
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Man, this thread is going to fast for me, and its so much to read
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Old 10-13-2004, 04:24 AM   #48
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how many PS is too much?
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Old 10-13-2004, 05:43 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by everso
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Actually, after I thought about it, I do have to agree with you. Turbos aren't cheating at all. I mean, you can match a great NA engine with some intelligent use of turbos, especially in the areas of bhp, and its even better torque-wise.

Thing is, more torque means you'll need a sturdier, and ultimately heavier, transmission. So you end up adding weight. Then there's the issue of engine wear, whereas a properly maintained NA engine will last as long as you possibly want, a turbo engine will need replacements parts during the course of its lifetime, and eventually, the entire engine will have to be rebuilt.

with a turbo, you have LESS weight in the engine compartment due to smaller cylinder size (usually, except for turbo supercars of course)...but take for example the 1.8T that's used by Audi/VW in alot of their cars. It's a tiny engine. And no, for the most part, you don't require ANY transmission modification at all.....Turbos may or may not have more torque, but most of them are not excessively torque-y, they're just like N/A in their ratings. (unless you consider turbo diesels, which is what you may be thinking of)

Turbos, in my opinion, are the most efficient ways to get power out of an engine without having to increase the size of the engine.

and in the old days, they needed alot of maintainence, but these days....naaah...Turbos don't blow like they used to any more.

i prefer my 1.8T ANYDAY over the 3.2 V6 which is also available. I've driven the V6 and it's lack of moddability and added weight don't impress me at all....

it's no fun with no B O O S T!
Man. Talk about having polar opposite opinions.

Let's just say I pretty much disagree with 95% of what you said, but I respect your opinion, and I'll leave it as such.

I still prefer NA engines over turbos or superchargers, but like how some people prefer a Benz to a BMW or an Audi for whatever reasons they may have, I'll choose to not engange in a debate that will drag this thread into the doldrums.

Mind you, the wife and I fancy the upcoming TT... that might be the first turbo car we get.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:20 AM   #50
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Bout time engineering took over again rather than strapping turbos, supercharges and increasing displacement. Thats why i like BMW for instance
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