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04-03-2008, 12:54 AM
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This is right out of the movie the Bank Job, is the upper crust of British society just wierd or what.
I can't believe he thinks he can do anything but retire and disappear.
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04-03-2008, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokiou
Hitler possibly did the same and many people still followed him!
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My question was whether you would continue to take moral and ethical instruction from your manager after he was exposed as an unethical and immoral person?
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04-03-2008, 01:10 AM
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i wouldnt take moral or eithical instructions for anyone. let alone someones who moral compass is fucked up.
But if he was my boss and he asked me to figure out a way to make F1 more fun. Then iw ould listen to him.
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04-03-2008, 01:14 AM
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Can't believe what i'm reading ^^
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04-03-2008, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokiou
i wouldnt take moral or eithical instructions for anyone. let alone someones who moral compass is fucked up.
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When you follow the rules put forth by F1 you are taking moral and ethical instructions.
Originally Posted by Pokiou
But if he was my boss and he asked me to figure out a way to make F1 more fun. Then iw ould listen to him.
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Why would you listen to the man after he was exposed pretending to be a nazi with 5 whores?
Originally Posted by styla21
Can't believe what i'm reading ^^ ![Huh](images/custom_smilies/huh.gif)
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Me neither.
Sadly we learned today that many countries and societies do not instill and foster good morals and ethical behaviour.
Yesterday, in Saltlake City Utah, a little 7 year old girl went missing while playing outside he apartment front door.
Today her body was found in the bathroom of an neighbouring apartment.
She appears to have been killed and her body attempted to be hidden by a 21 year old Burmese asylum seeker - he was fresh off the boat from Burma.. literally - he had been in the US for less than 30 days.
When questioned yesterday by the little girls parents if he had seen her - he said no.
I am not saying that just because someone doesnt condemn immoral behavour they are 1 step from child murder, but I am saying that there seems to be a lack of moral condemnation these days that is concerning.
Is it possible that the lack of clear moral direction is partly to blame for this exponential increase in abhorant crimes?
Last edited by RC45; 04-03-2008 at 01:37 AM.
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04-03-2008, 02:55 AM
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no but the guy wants to ahve kinky sex and there are groups that provide it.. BUT if you said he was having sex with 5 14 yo girls or 16yo girls and hitting them and abusing them, then thats different. I wouldnt listen nor look or in anyway assoc. with them in anyways.
I would love for my fiancé to dress up in a french maide outfit and so forth.. doesnt mean that im some French cheese eating surrender monkey.
you can be shocked as much as you want. But seriously his behaviour didnt affect F1 or teh drivers in anyway what so ever. I find it just silly to go on about it. Im sure if given the chance you would all jump into an orgy with 5 gorgeous woman/man what ever you like. If your married thats your own moral and dignity on the line. Not mine nor anything else.
If he resigns.. then so be it.. IF he doesnt then so be it.. at the end of the day there is going to be an F1 race and it will happen with or with out him.
I dont condole what he has done BUT .. he is only a figure at the top. Should all americans be hated cause of Clinton cock sucking scandal? or should every1 hate Bushs crap? No each to there own.. america will be america with or with out them leaders.. its not the leaders that make the country, company or FIA. Its the group of followers that make it what it is. You cant allow 1 rotten tomato spoil the broth.
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04-03-2008, 02:57 AM
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I didnt mean to give america as an example but it was just figure of free speech..
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04-03-2008, 06:37 AM
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^ to be honest no one really cares (maybe not even his wife) that he had sex with prositutes, but what everyone seems to be disgusted by is why the hell he had to go on and act like a fu***g nazi.
If he did the french maid thing i would've just laughed... but this is nazism, it paints the image that he accepted what the nazi did, and maybe wished he was a nazi, so much so that by acting out similar situations of torture, humiliation and oppression he gets sexual satisfaction... i mean how can anyone have a sexual fantasy about the holocaust? that is really messed up, and i wouldn't want anyone like this to be in any position of power no matter how effective he is
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04-03-2008, 06:52 AM
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GT, It appears most are missing the distinction here. This is not about whether or not a sex act is right or wrong in their own private domain, but rather that adultery (in shocking taste) was commited and how reflects on Mosleys sincerity, credability, transparency, and trustworthiness.
RC said this perfectly. If his own wife can't trust him, due to being completely devoid of all ethics and moral fibre, how does the business community as a whole?
The FIA will have more corporate fallout behind the scenes, due to the actions of one man, than you may think.
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04-03-2008, 07:30 AM
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Mosley: BMW and Mercedes-Benz issue joint statement
As widely expected, despite Max Mosley's letter to members of the FIA, and various others, earlier this week, claiming that he has received a large number of messages of support and sympathy from those within the FIA and motor sport, this clearly does not include BMW or Mercedes-Benz.
The two manufacturers have this morning issued a joint statement which will further damage the FIA President, whose position becomes more precarious with each passing day.
The statement reads as follows:
"The content of the publications is disgraceful. As a company, we strongly distance ourselves from it. This incident concerns Max Mosley both personally and as President of the FIA, the global umbrella organisation for motoring clubs. Its consequences therefore extend far beyond the motor sport industry. We await a response from the relevant FIA bodies."
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Mosley: Toyota issues statement
Less than hour after BMW and Mercedes-Benz issued a joint statement condemning Max Mosley's behaviour, following allegations in a British tabloid newspaper, Toyota has issued its own statement.
It reads as follows:
"Toyota Motorsport does not approve of any behaviour which could be seen to damage Formula 1's image, in particular any behaviour which could be understood to be racist or anti-Semitic.
Senior figures within any sport or business, including motorsport, must adhere to high standards of behaviour. When all the facts are known, it will be for the FIA to decide whether Mr Mosley has met the moral obligations which come with the position of FIA President."
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And a statement from Honda
Following statements from BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Toyota, Honda has now issued its statement in relation to the ongoing Mosley saga.
It reads:
"It is necessary that senior figures in sport and business maintain the highest standards of conduct in order to fulfil their duties with integrity and respect. The Honda Racing F1 Team is extremely disappointed by recent events surrounding Mr Mosley and we are concerned that the reputation of Formula One and all its participants is being damaged. We request that the FIA gives this matter careful consideration and reaches an immediate decision in the best interests of F1 and Motorsport."
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source links:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34348
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34349
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34350
I guess that'll help make him quit. Anyway, maybe he can make as much money selling his home videos?
Fédération Inter-nazi-onale de l'Pornographie presents:
"Mosley's Q3 HOTSlapping Nazi-style!" (on-board footage) [DVD] - Irrepressible Max sets new qualifying rules! Ya, ya, no pitstops allowed!
anyone?
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04-03-2008, 07:38 AM
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Thanks Toffy! Your post just summed up what likely and appropriate consequences that we've been describing throughout the thread.
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04-03-2008, 07:42 AM
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And look what he replied with!!!
Mosley regrets team statements
Max Mosley came with a statement on Thursday replying to the Formula 1 teams that issued a statement on Mosley's sex scandal. The FIA President regrets the team did not contact him to check if the video was real and slams BMW and Mercedes Benz for their acts during the Second World War.
Mosley said in a statement to Reuters: "Given the history of BMW and Mercedes Benz, particularly before and during the Second World War, I fully understand why they would wish to strongly distance themselves from what they rightly describe as the disgraceful content of these publications.
"Unfortunately, they did not contact me before putting out their statement to ask whether the content was in fact true.
Earlier this week Mosley said he received support from within the FIA saying: "My private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role. I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."
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source: http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...am-statements/
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04-03-2008, 08:20 AM
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D.I.S.C.R.A.C.E.F.U.L
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04-03-2008, 09:06 AM
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Mosley said in a statement to Reuters: "Given the history of BMW and Mercedes Benz, particularly before and during the Second World War, I fully understand why they would wish to strongly distance themselves from what they rightly describe as the disgraceful content of these publications.
"Unfortunately, they did not contact me before putting out their statement to ask whether the content was in fact true.
Earlier this week Mosley said he received support from within the FIA saying: "My private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role. I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."
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With responses like this it is quite obvious "Mr Mosely" is quite removed from reality and seems to think he can operate with impunity from a position of moral bankruptcy and poor ethics and clear violation of law... and in his opinion should be above said requirements - afterall - he is Max Mosely - he is above everyone else.
Doesnt his behaviour border on that of a psychopath? ![Wink](images/custom_smilies/wink.gif)
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04-03-2008, 09:36 AM
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so is there proof that its him ??? t
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