Gallardo Police Car

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Originally Posted by AL123 cretainly not a large house its a student house i'm not sure how to sell some bandwidth but NTL are increasing the speed you get for £25 to 750k so that would be a very nice earner. cheers for the advice

I'm on 600k NTL at the moment... i knew about the upgrade to 750k, but do you know when it is going to happen??? BTW - i could get 1.5Mbit from them at £38 when these upgrades happen 8)

Originally Posted by thenumber1 Originally Posted by AL123 cretainly not a large house its a student house i'm not sure how to sell some bandwidth but NTL are increasing the speed you get for £25 to 750k so that would be a very nice earner. cheers for the advice I'm on 600k NTL at the moment... i knew about the upgrade to 750k, but do you know when it is going to happen??? BTW - i could get 1.5Mbit from them at £38 when these upgrades happen 8)

it say's summer on the web so by the time i get it the speed should be 750k 1.5mbit sounds good but i think 750k is adequate for our needs

BTW I REALLY am a post whore today!! to much timem on my hands when i should be revising!!

**EDIT** I think Jabba should rename this thread hijacked for advice to AL about wireless networking!!! I'm so bad at doing that!!

[PATo355]

Yes i agree the G is faster man , but for a Student house you dont need to much security , and 11mb will do it for a 750k connection , right ? even for transferring files from PC to pc , or burning Cd{s from the other Computer

[Zonda11]

Originally Posted by TT Oh BTW about wireless broadband! By my mom finally after years they upgraded from a normal ISDN to a proper DSL... well still not that fast.. they were so exctited to get a DSL 256!! LOL they asked me how fast is mine and I told them it's 1200... but anyway, the did the whole wireless thing inthe house.. and it's a pretty big one, and still, you can take a laptop wherever you want, inside or outside, on the roof, in the back of the garden.. and you can surf perfectly... that's something supercool

I have had a wireless network for years -- and In fact,,, I am on the roof right now. Seems to be working fine!

[graywolf624]

you dont need to much security

I beg to differ. Everyone in your house can use your internet if you dont setup that security right. They can also read everything you do. So lets see.. a) they can hack the white house or anyone else from your account and your liable(been there, my school actually banned wifi points in schools). b) they know every type of porn you look at, and all your passwords that are not encrypted.

Yeah.. security isn't needed.. feel free to tell the fbi that when they come knockin.

*You may think I'm exagerating, but I have seen it happen. Being a information security specialist, I would advise at very least setting up to be more difficult then the value of data you are transmitting. That point would be most likely wpa encryption, however you'd be a fool to not at least run wep.

Originally Posted by graywolf624 you dont need to much security I beg to differ. Everyone in your house can use your internet if you dont setup that security right. They can also read everything you do. So lets see.. a) they can hack the white house or anyone else from your account and your liable(been there, my school actually banned wifi points in schools). b) they know every type of porn you look at, and all your passwords that are not encrypted. Yeah.. security isn't needed.. feel free to tell the fbi that when they come knockin. *You may think I'm exagerating, but I have seen it happen. Being a information security specialist, I would advise at very least setting up to be more difficult then the value of data you are transmitting. That point would be most likely wpa encryption, however you'd be a fool to not at least run wep.

UM lost ops:
1 so can i set up different accounts so that each user (all 3 of us in the house) can't see everthing each person is doing- to be honest i'm not particurly bothered but my housemates may be, however we will still want to share stuff
2 what kind of security do i need to stop, or at least make it very hard for other people to access our connection/ computers. This is important because we don't want to loose any important work or have someone hijack our connection etc
3 what are the different types of encryption? wpa/wep you mentioned

cheers to everyone for their help suggestions, i hope nobody minds how terribly off topic we've mangaed to get! ops:

[graywolf624]

so can i set up different accounts so that each user (all 3 of us in the house) can't see everthing each person is doing- to be honest i'm not particurly bothered but my housemates may be, however we will still want to share stuff 2 what kind of security do i need to stop, or at least make it very hard for other people to access our connection/ computers. This is important because we don't want to loose any important work or have someone hijack our connection etc 3 what are the different types of encryption? wpa/wep you mentioned

In general you can't setup different accounts for each user but each user gets their information sent seperatly. The problem occurs in that people can sniff the packets as they fly through the air and if they aren't encrypted, read them. The people you have given access can sniff each others packets... but they won't automatically get everyone elses stuff. The security you want to start with is disabling ssid broadcast(itd make sense if you have the router), set up wep or wpa encryption(encrypts the channel so it cant be read or used by others), make a access list only allowing certain mac addresses to access your network(allow all the computers to connect to the router.. then copy the routers list of mac addys into which mac addys are allowed access). In these ways they have to crack wep/wpa, figure out your ssid, and spoof your mac addy to get onto your network.

Types of encryption.
There are 2 standards currently. The older more widly accepted is wep.
Given an 30 mins to an hour of sniffing packets someone can use your account.
The second is wpa, which to my knowledge has not been cracked. Remember to choose a reasonably long non human readable password using non human readable charachters(use the alt and numbers keys to write unreadable charachters)

[graywolf624]

To clarify.. sniffing..
All messages are transported through the air. Anyone can intercept the messages. The encryption uses a key to make the signal unreadable to people without the key. The wep encryption standard has a flaw in this encryption algorithm which makes it easier to crack. Given this key and the right software, or enought time to crack the wep, or lack of use of said encryption.. a person can read what goes over the system and masquerade as a computer on the system.

Cheers Graywolf i think i understand now at leat the principles and as you say i'll probably understand more once i have the router and everthing, thanks to al for their help and advice

[graywolf624]

Ok I do want to add one thing to what I said.
The one person above asked about individual accounts and charging for access. This advice doesn't apply to al and I wouldn't suggest he go this route, but there is an alternative. It is called virtual private networking or VPN. The idea is the computer creates a virtual or software based network over the preexisting wireless network. It does its own encryption, access control, ect. all run through its own program seperate from the network. This is the ultimate in security, in most of the algorithms used if you use a reasonable password they are uncrackable. They also allow for each user to have their own account. The issue is that for home use(non work use) these setups aren't really reasonable. Basically the vpn programs have to be running on all computers accessing the network(cpu cycles on each computer), you have to get ahold of a trusted program(There is one open source version, openvpn, but I am unsure if it available for pc. Otherwise your buying one), and lastly they aren't easy to setup. In the long run the wpa encryption reaches the point of reasonable stops as long as you have trusted people who access your network and cycle your passwords occassionaly(you should be cycling passwords for every application you ever use).

[a007apl]

:roll:
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...=159850#159850

[graywolf624]

see.. the title just says galarado.. We are talking about wifi here.. It's a plot to hide the discussion.

Lol i think he mised a couple of pages but we'll let him off as its his birthday- this has got to be the most off topic discussion ever i'm actually quite proud

[Zonda11]

How long would it take to crack 128 bit encryption using a program. I have heard of some programs that are ablr to do this!

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Originally Posted by Zonda11 How long would it take to crack 128 bit encryption using a program. I have heard of some programs that are ablr to do this!

I'm not sure if we want to be talking about hacking things... This is car forum, and besides, it's got to be illegal right