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Old 01-06-2004, 03:03 AM   #31
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"All the gear, but no idea"
Hehe, I think I migt use that if you don't mind ?
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:52 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by corvette97
wings on pukeup ...errr pickup trucks have function? yes, to look rice. hehe
ok, let see if you understand this...the stability of a pick up is not as good as the stability of a car or a sports car....did you understand that??

well, the srt-10 pickup has a srt10 viper engine on it, that means big power...
since the pickup is unstable, they add a wing, to add downforce,
haven't you seen the pickuptruck races? hu? well try to investigate a lil more about that truck and you will see the differnce beetwen rice and functionality!
Wings and that kind of dumb things only really "help" above 120km/hr, even when almost all cars can go over that speed, you can't drive 120 all the time.
And are all rice drivers know if their wings really help them to reduce fuel consumption? to bring more downforce?
in pick up trucks a wing helps... in nothing! Remember these are high or tall (sorry... their height above the pavement) and all the air that comes down the truck (even when it has diffusors, etc) makes the truck very unstable. If you want a truck with good stability, go and lower it like a car.

not all wings and accesories really work, they may be parasites.
come on guys, go and grab a fluid mechanics book
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Old 01-06-2004, 04:28 PM   #33
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Wings and that kind of dumb things only really "help" above 120km/hr, even when almost all cars can go over that speed, you can't drive 120 all the time.
to make that comment you have to own a exotic/muscle/srt-10, have you read the link that i gave to one guy?????, to build a SRT-10 you need more than just a ....
fluid mechanics book
the guys tha developed the SRT-10, know more than just fluid mechanics, these kind of books are for riceboys, if a stock car brings a WING, ( a really good car, exotic/muscle/any fast car/srt-10), just don't mess with that, the "mechanics"....the engineers that build these type of cars know why they put a wing that might look ricey on their car, but somehow these wing has a function!
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Old 01-06-2004, 07:27 PM   #34
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I tend to agree, most wings that look over the top that came factory for exotic and sports cars have definitely got a purpose where a lot of the aftermarket ones do not.
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:05 PM   #35
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not all wings work. Did you know that the lambo countach wing didn't work at all? even when it costed 4000dollars?

And that kind of books aren't just for rice boys, are for the engineers that developed all our cars.

I agree with suprapolak with: "most wings that look over the top that came factory for exotic and sports cars have definitely got a purpose where a lot of the aftermarket ones do not."

I know a guy from general motors, he's an engineer that tests and modifies the cars that come to my country, and told me that the marketing guys told the engineers to put a wing for marketing purpouses, for rice boys
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:23 PM   #36
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Wings on alot of those cheap FRONT wheel drive cars have absolutely NO purpous. the idea behind a spoiler/wing is to push the car down on the ground to keep traction on the drive wheels. front wheel drive cars only need the back wheels to keep the bottom of the car off the ground. The funniest thing is when the stupid ricers put the "wings" on backwards and have them pointing down like a plane wing defeating the whole downforce idea.
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Old 01-06-2004, 11:42 PM   #37
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I know a guy from general motors, he's an engineer that tests and modifies the cars that come to my country, and told me that the marketing guys told the engineers to put a wing for marketing purpouses, for rice boys
the countach, is a fine machine but the teach on it is old, the srt-10 has new tech, the wing on the srt-10 has a function even if u like it or not,and might look ricey but with a function, sorry but thats how things are!, you need more than a book to build a fine machine,
the DODE RAM SRT-10 is not for riceboys, its a a 50k$ machine, usualy riceboy dont buy this kind of cars,
where do you live anyway! iam from guatemala
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:20 AM   #38
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i think i said it best when is said....

Originally Posted by toronto
what i don't get is, most of these cars are front engine and fwd, so u would want most of the downforce in the front, so puttin a huge wing in the back might give u better grip, but if u want to improve your track times, focus more on generating downforce in the front of your rice rocket, *Then it could go as fast as REAL cars*
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Old 01-07-2004, 12:36 AM   #39
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mmmm, you're right with the thing that riceboys don't buy $50k vehicles, almost all.

of course you need a lot more than a book to build a fine machine. The dodge daytona 69 needed that awful wing and the diffuser to handle the high speeds in the circuits, and it's "old teach", older than the countach. That's why you need fluid mechanics (look the new wings used in F1)

the same wing didn't have a real use outside the circuit.
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Old 01-07-2004, 03:08 AM   #40
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SRT-10: it's a focking truck. yes a fast truck, but still an ugly ass truck, with an inherently not balanced for sports driving chassis and an idiot that cant stay in his/her own lane on the freeway or parking lot. and it IS RICE, it's texas long grain rice.

maybe the SRT's better balanced in South America where you're from cuz the water spins the opposite way down the toilet, eh corvette97?
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Old 01-07-2004, 04:13 AM   #41
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this rice tuning has gone to far....
- they look more and more like a caricature of, than real cars
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Old 01-07-2004, 05:21 AM   #42
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I think
caricature
summs up rice pretty well. A caricature is just an over exageration of some feature with no real purpose other than to make something look funny/stupid
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Old 01-07-2004, 08:01 AM   #43
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No pun intended of course
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Old 01-07-2004, 08:53 AM   #44
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Wings,

you ain't seen nothing yet



> 1968
> Graham Hill
> Lotus 49B

http://www.f1nutter.com/tech/aero.php#early
for background info :fadein:

forgot this



one, the root of all evil: the 1967 Chapparal 2G from the North American Can-Am series
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Old 01-25-2004, 10:33 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by corvette97
F40 wing =Italian rice
Carerra GT wing = German rice
Dodge Ram SRT10 wing = American rice
Ford Escort Cosworth wing = British rice
THIS ARE NOT RICE WINGS ARE WINGS THAT HAVE A FUNCTION!

the honda's civics and eclipses and shit, are RICE
Your exactly right...I know for a fact many Porsche models have wings that come up after 60mph to cut back on resistance and centrifugal force. The fact is a wing on a Honda Civic - Accord - and other lower end cars serves no purpose for a car that can barely go 100mph without shaking its entire chasis. On the other hand the European and American autos you named can pass 100mph with no stability problem and in many cases their wings are merely nice spoilers that are barely 2inches high of the rear end. The Dodge Ram SRT-10 has the highest wing of all the cars you mentioned and its circular none the less.....I wouldnt call a car that is around 20k and does high 13s rice.....
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