Next Generation BMW M3

[mindgam3]

Originally Posted by styla21 There is no M4... Nor is there a 4 series in general. Therefore this is a very simple model designation, the same as it has been for the last 20 years plus a couple of new series. Very understandable. Capish? :roll:

lol, and how do you know?

Chances are, if they are or are not making a 4 series, they would've said they're not making one anyway so people buy the 3 series and dont wait for the 4 series and therefore gain maximum profit from both models, if indeed a 4 series is being released....

People said the same about the 1 and 6 series and look what happened

We'll have to wait n see

[findleybeast]

interesting that they'll have the 4 door, but having a M3 coupe and M4 coupe doesn't make any sense

[ferrarif1fan89]

YES! a 4 door! im going to hold out buying a nw car until the m3 sedan comes out.

[blah]

I dont see why people are so up in arms about the whole V8 issue. The Original M3 had a I4, and only had a I6 for 2 generations. Its time to move on. Think about it, the M5 started with a I6 then got a great V8, and is now getting an even better V10. Same with the M3.

[T5]

It´s a matter of preferences.I prefer the sound of a I6 engine,but i agree with you when you say it´s time to move on to a new engine,with new engine architecture and 2 more cylinders

[blah]

Originally Posted by T5 It´s a matter of preferences.I prefer the sound of a I6 engine,but i agree with you when you say it´s time to move on to a new engine,with new engine architecture and 2 more cylinders

I do like the raspy note of the I6 M engine, but i bet that since its gonna be a high revving 4.0 liter V8 it will sound damn good. Maybe even like a 355, or a 430.

[T5]

I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine.

[ZfrkS62]

Originally Posted by T5 I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine.

Look at it this way though, the fact that the V8 is a low displacement engine (241 cubic inches) it's going to have alot more low end torque than the V10 and it's going to be MUCH more accessible (i'm thinking low to mid 3,000) And getting it to rev to 8K is not going to be a problem This is German engineering after all It'll be able to put out about 415-420 HP no problem

[styla21]

Originally Posted by T5 I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine.

On what basis do you "recommend" a V10? It would be an interesting comparison, but you feel that a german car company would be able to mimic some of it's italian counterparts and build a V8 with a high redline?
*{insert 360modena e.g. here}*

[ferrarif1fan89]

Originally Posted by T5 I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine.

LOL! have you heard of ferrari?

[T5]

I am a Ferrari fan,but BMW is very diferent,you shouldn´t expect a M3 competing with the F430...
I recomend the V10 because there is already a good one in the M5 and M6 with great revs and performances.
My interrogation about this V8 is if it´s a completely new engine or if it is a adaptation from the V8 that equiped the M5 E39.The V8 from the old M5 was great but only reach 6500 rpm on the redline...
I like revs not torque.

[Ghostbat]

Originally Posted by T5 I am a Ferrari fan,but BMW is very diferent,you shouldn´t expect a M3 competing with the F430... I recomend the V10 because there is already a good one in the M5 and M6 with great revs and performances. My interrogation about this V8 is if it´s a completely new engine or if it is a adaptation from the V8 that equiped the M5 E39.The V8 from the old M5 was great but only reach 6500 rpm on the redline... I like revs not torque.

You are wrong about the old E39 M5. It doesn't have a redline at 6500rpm. I reaches it's maximum power output at 6600rpm and has a redline at 7000rpm.

[coombsie66]

Originally Posted by T5 I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine.

WTF are you talking about?

And i doubt the engine would ever sound like a 360 or 430 engine, as bmw dont go for flat plain cranks.

[T5]

Originally Posted by coombsie66 Originally Posted by T5 I don´t think possible to have a 8000rev until redline V8 at this time.If that´s the objective I recomend a V10 engine. WTF are you talking about? And i doubt the engine would ever sound like a 360 or 430 engine, as bmw dont go for flat plain cranks.

BMW V8 Engines.
Finish reading,before comment!

[cooperluke]

I like revs not torque.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't your T-5 a "torque" engine instead of revs??



And, I believe that BMW can make a high reving V8. They have the know how for it, if they want, they make it.