Originally Posted by tforth
I have never ever read or heard anyone, other than yourself, say that any corvette has a decent interior.
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Then you are a fucking idiot - period.
Originally Posted by tforth
I have sat in a regular C6 as well as the Z06, and would agree that the fit and finish is marginal for a 45k vehicle and pretty sad for a 75k one. Deny this all you want, but no one would ever by a vette for its level of quality! Don't get me wrong, this is not and should not be the focus of our discussion. It's just a 'fact'.
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Get a camera and takle pictures of thsi supposed "bad interior" - point out the "bad bits".
Then go to some other "supposed superior" car and identify the superior bits.
Until then shut up wiht your assinine biased crap.
I have sat ina nd around SLR's, Caymens, Roll Royces, 911, RUF's, Gallardos, Murcis, Audis, Bentleys, Panoz's, Ferraris, Lotii etc etc - and when you do you realize this utter fucking crap printed about " the interior of this car vs that" is pure shit conhured up by magazine writers to cater to gullible idiots like yourself.
Its not as if there are huge gaps int he leather and glue oozing out of th ejoints and hair balls on the ceiling.
Fucking hell I am so sick and tired of the putrid rancid shit printed by magazines and lapped up by people like yourself as biased bogus shit indormation is pread about cars I am going to continue publishing my magazine just to show pompous windbags such as yourself up.
Fuck man - are you people kidding me?
Originally Posted by tforth
I am the one displaying a bias here - hmmm. I do not own a Veyron or a Porsche, so where exactly is my vested interest? If I'm not mistaken, you own a C5 Z06, right?...
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So fucking what?
If youwere sitting here trashing Mustangs or Mazda RX7's with shit I would be countering your points.
Originally Posted by tforth
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Exactly huh? WTF are you trying to say?
You state some one pointed ou thte C6 Z06 was "hairy" - uhm - a 993 GT2 is hairy.. the Z06 is anything but hairy.. yet more bullshit propoganda.
Originally Posted by tforth
Ibet he gets lots of looks from the other pooftas at Starbucks..
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it's a nice medium performing medium paced car - ideal for the poser.
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So, Porsches are for posers and it's the corvettes that are driven by the real men? I thought you said that I was the biased one here? BTW, the last time I saw a statistic on them (in Automotive Industries - I know, another magazine...), over 80% of corvettes were sold with automatic transmissions. What exactly does that say?
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WHo gives a flying fuck about the hairdresser automatic Corvette Coupe? I don't - never have - do a search for the 1000's of times I have called the Porsche Coxster, Gaymen abd Corvette Coupe poser hairdresser cars... you will find many times I say just that.
Tell your friend from me he drives a chicks car.
Originally Posted by tforth
What a crock of shit - He was cross shopping a Cayman and Z06.. uhm - the car's are in the same price range - but - uhm - not market competitors.. the mere fact you and he seem to think they are "competirots" is rather telling.
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A car purchase is not a one dimensional decision.
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A sports car purchase is - you are either a poser or a driver. Unless you are extremely wealthy then you buy a car for every mood you have - if you only have money for onecar, and you compromise on the chick poofta poser mediocre performer you are a poser not a driver.
Originally Posted by tforth
Straight line performance appeals to Americans more than to pretty much anybody else.
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WTF are you rambling about now you Kanuky nutjob? Yet more bias...
Originally Posted by tforth
When I spoke to him again about it today, he mentioned that the driving position was crappy and the clutch/throttle/brake/shifter felt like they were patched together, unlike his Cayman.
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Driving position? WHat is he a fucking poofta whiner? Suck it up pussy - have you sat in a race car? The driving position is about driving not getting a massage - again, has he ever even driven the car without bias?
What a load of crap... every 911 I have driven felt no better or worse than the Lotuses, Corvettes, Panoz's etc...
The good driver adapts to the carb - the loser complains and whines like a stuck pig... *****squeal****
Originally Posted by tforth
I know these seem like small details to you, but they are effectively a major part of the man/machine interface.
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Man/machine interface? Again - good drivers adapt and drive - posers and whiners complain.
Originally Posted by tforth
Shut the fuck up already with your crap.
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Were you starting to cry at this point?
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No - I began to feel sorry for you and all the other stupid sheeple that go through life brainwashed by bias... let me guess you are bleeding liberal?
Originally Posted by tforth
you're really not going to like this quote then:
from evo 099, Pg. 129 (written by Richard Meaden)
"Far from feeling like the big, numb, unwieldy contraption that prejudice - and, it has to be said, prior experience of earlier incarnations of Vette - would have us believe, the (new) Z06 earned our respect and admiration."
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Again - how the fuck do these stupid idiots compare the auto tranny soft suspension poofta hairdresser Coupe Vettes to the Z06?
Its as stupid as them saying "Man this GT3-RS really delivers where the
BASE FUCKING MODEL 911 falls short.
No shit Sherlock - it stands to goddamned reason - doesnt' it.
Helllo - Captain Obvious!!!!!
Originally Posted by tforth
Did you notice the cracks in the brake discs of this vehicle they tested? That was from one session at Spa. Not exactly robust. I guess that's why they have coined the term "Porsche brakes" and not "Corvette brakes".
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Your point? I can go through a set of rotors ina weekend at the track - and tey cost me $50 a wheel to replace.
Cryo treated they last for 10 - and the car stops as well as the $8000 PCCB shod equivavlent - which might also show stress after a few weekends.
Porsche/Ferrrai brakes are not actually designed to last longer, jjust as all the PCCB owners who switched to the iron rotors after the first costly replacement.
Originally Posted by tforth
cut out a bunch of crap
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Originally Posted by tforth
all you fit and finish people are so quick to mouth off
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Hey, when someone spends 75 grand, even if they realize that they got a good deal on the performance side of the equation, they still expect a certain minimum level of quality.
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Hehe - again - have you actually spent time comparing interiors that closely?
I bet you think the $160,000 Panoz has a fantastic interior.. don't you?
Originally Posted by tforth
Tell me, if you think the press is so useless and misleading than why are you referencing the lap times that Auto Zetiung apparently came up with? Are they only good when the print something that helps your argument and wrong, the majority of the rest of the time?
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Not at all - I simply make the distinction between "subjective crap" and the quantitiable measured numbers.
I am still astonished by the capacity for supposedly eductated adults to be so ill informed.
Give my regards to your poser buddy.