Left-foot braking

[TopGearNL]

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[ViperASR]

Originally Posted by mrmojo77 Originally Posted by pitfield I feel educated, thank-you for that. This is what JWis all about. I often blip the throttle on downshifts in my MINI while braking with my right foot, is this heel and toeing? Yes it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe

Actually, heel and toeing is when you use your right foot to brake and blip the thorottle while changing down gears at the same time. Braking with your left foot is called left foot braking .

left foot braking is generally associated with automatics and go carts.

[number77]

left foot braking is for RWD cars to (on paved racetracks). I know an SCCA driver that consistently wins that does it. But you have to be really really good to do it. I mean...really good.

[pitfield]

It's a piece of cake dude. If you want, I'll show you. I'm not trying to prove that my journey to work is 0.001sec faster because of it but it does make down shifts much smoother which must be a little more sympathetic to the machinery.

And besides, it sounds badass.

[andreadebi]

Originally Posted by TopGearNL Originally Posted by andreadebi Originally Posted by TopGearNL Reminds me of the Walther Rohrl vid Anyway pretty interesting, would like to master that technique one day! which video please? walter röhrl rally audi S1 - YouTube walter röhrl rally audi S1 - YouTube 8)

grazie!

[saadie]

heel and toe has got nothing to do with left foot braking

heel and toe is essential when you are driving fast in a rear wheel drive car ... braking with the toe and giving the throttle a blip with the heel keeps the revs up so when you drop the clutch the rear dosnt lock up ( usually happens in racing cars ) .... if the rear locks up you'd be pointing where you've come from ... heel and toe also helps in braking .. there is a little power going to the wheels and your toe is on the brake so it acts a little like abs .... the wheels dont lock up ...

i left foor brake all the time .... there is this really nice mountaneous road near my place when comming down youre mostly in 2nd gear .. sometimes in 3rd ... when ever i am in 2nd im left foot braking its damn good fun 8)

[pitfield]

I think when they say heel and toe they refer to when the accelerator was on the other side. Nowadays you use the right foot placed between both throttle and brake and flip the right sideof your foot down to blip the throttle, haven't tried to left foot brake, a Porsche driving instuctor showedme once on track but I didn't really get it, next thing to learn.

It has be said though, I'm a heel and toe fucking MASTER

[saadie]

Nowadays you use the right foot placed between both throttle and brake and flip the right sideof your foot down to blip the throttle

you are right ..... the distance between the acclerator and the brake has been shortened over the years ...

so now your foot is in the middle and you use the left side to brake and the right side to blip the throttle .. just like you said ... ... but yeh .. its still called heel and toe ...

It has be said though, I'm a heel and toe fucking MASTER

youre fucking 75 you need a lot growning up to do

[saadie]

true ... heel and toe also depends on the throw of the brake and accletator .. if the acclerator moves alot more then the brake then you realy have to keep your foor horizontal ...

[pitfield]

Growing up???

For who?

[saadie]

it was a joke on your age

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[saadie]

get you peddle fixed

[dutchmasterflex]

Originally Posted by mrmojo77 Have any of you experienced difficulties in heel&toeing, because of the lag in the gas pedal? You can't just flip it, because revs don't go up with a flip, but you have to keep it depresses for a while. It sucks even to practise with such system.

I know what you mean.. I taught myself on a 1.5L 4 banger, which has decent throttle response.. but when I hopped into a 6speed Benz C240, the V6 didn't rev as quick when tapping on the throttle.

You have to really make sure you give the gas pedal a nice hard blip.

[pitfield]

In the MINI Cooper it's doddle, in the supercharged cooper S it's fantastic because you get burlbles on the over run, and the turbo cooper S lags a little but you can use it as an excuse to keep the engine on the boil.

Left foot braking is also good for keeping Turbo cars on boost, especailly old super laggy ones.

A merc V6 is just too lazy for that sort of work.

[dutchmasterflex]

Anyone ever force an automatic to rev match? I know it can't be good for the reliability of the transmission, but sometimes when in a hurry I downshift into 2nd in an auto and if I blip the throttle it will downshift faster and smoother.