03-31-2004, 06:23 PM
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4gb of ram right ? why you need such a huge pc ?
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03-31-2004, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PATo355
4gb of ram right ? why you need such a huge pc ? 
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Its 5GB of RAID 5 memory - with 4GB usable - allows for hot-swap of failed RAM on the fly...
With that much memory, and this many processors, Video encoding/processing - is, lets say, instantaneous...
...but seriously - it is for major server hosting.
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03-31-2004, 09:30 PM
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wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Originally Posted by TT
we have a superb community full of great friends always ready to face any kind of menace  .. and win of course 
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Nuff Said
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03-31-2004, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Probably about $50K as configured - I just build em, configure em and support em...
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03-31-2004, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Probably about $50K as configured - I just build em, configure em and support em... 
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
wow!
and in how much time will that pay itself?
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Originally Posted by TT
we have a superb community full of great friends always ready to face any kind of menace  .. and win of course 
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Nuff Said
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03-31-2004, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Probably about $50K as configured - I just build em, configure em and support em... 
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
wow!
and in how much time will that pay itself?
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How long is a piece of string...
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03-31-2004, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Probably about $50K as configured - I just build em, configure em and support em... 
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
wow!
and in how much time will that pay itself?
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How long is a piece of string...
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mmmm...
(confused)... :roll:
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Originally Posted by TT
we have a superb community full of great friends always ready to face any kind of menace  .. and win of course 
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Nuff Said
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04-01-2004, 12:32 AM
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whoa I never knew there was hot swappable ram. I thought that existed only for hds.
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04-01-2004, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by oscargarza88
wow, and i thought jabbas comp was fast!
aout how much did it cost?
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Probably about $50K as configured - I just build em, configure em and support em... 
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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
wow!
and in how much time will that pay itself?
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How long is a piece of string...
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mmmm...
(confused)... :roll:
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The answer is "It depends" - which is the same answer to the question "How long is a piece of string?"
The answer "It depends... what you need the string for."
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04-01-2004, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by PATo355
4gb of ram right ? why you need such a huge pc ? 
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Its 5GB of RAID 5 memory - with 4GB usable - allows for hot-swap of failed RAM on the fly...
With that much memory, and this many processors, Video encoding/processing - is, lets say, instantaneous...
...but seriously - it is for major server hosting.
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yeah im sure is for some mayor shit , not for browsing the JabbasWorld
Congrats for you sistem
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04-01-2004, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PATo355
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by PATo355
4gb of ram right ? why you need such a huge pc ? 
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Its 5GB of RAID 5 memory - with 4GB usable - allows for hot-swap of failed RAM on the fly...
With that much memory, and this many processors, Video encoding/processing - is, lets say, instantaneous...
...but seriously - it is for major server hosting.
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yeah im sure is for some mayor shit , not for browsing the JabbasWorld
Congrats for you sistem
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Yeah - it is part of the back-bone of an ASP solution I am putting together.
We will eventually have about 25 of these systems - churning away, using electricity and contributing to global warming by making powerplants burn more fossil fuels.. LOL
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04-01-2004, 02:23 AM
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But With the "nuf said" comment and knowing RC45 to be the biggest computer geek on this site, Im sure its something he stole from NASA down the street....
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reminds me of my WV days @ NRAO
i like how compact it is with so many procs... most ive seen in a desktop is 4, which is 3 more then im used to. i am ~mostly hapy with my amd xp 1900 and 512m of ram.... mostly
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04-01-2004, 02:48 AM
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Actually, I just did a little "real world" shoot out.
The sample video was a 700mb AVI, 3m12s clip 720x480 24fps DV capture - Rendered to DVD-NTSC 720x480 29.97fps using Vegas 4 which is multi-CPU aware.
On a single P4 2.6GHZ 512MB Cache, 1GB RAM system, it took 5m00s to render.
On the 8-dual core CPU, P4 2GHZ Xeon, 2MB Cache, 4GB RAM system, it took 2m58s to render.
Pretty much quicker than realtime - however, the single CPU home made system only cost $1200 to buy, where as the "16 CPU" monster is about $50G's
I am sure a single P4 3.6GHZ system would equal, if not out perform the "16CPU" job - and only be a $250 upgrade to my existing video workstation.
As always - everything has it's intended use, and while a turbo Supra putting 1100hp too the wheels is good for bragging rights... it means shit when you have to get traction on public roads..
I am going to redo the test, this time applying some FX to the clip - aged film, and see how long it takes to do real movie rendering work.
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04-01-2004, 05:14 AM
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Really interesting results.
The 2.6GHZ P4 was soundly beaten in the simple DVD-NTSC render test, 5m00s vs 2m59s to render the 3m12s clip -- the results are a little different when you load the systems up with complex rendering tasks.
Rendering the same 700mb 3m12s clip with the Aged Film filter (1908 Film) - the 2.6GHZ 1CPU box got done in 1h54m, while the 2GHZ 8-dual core CPU box took 2h20m - it would seem certain algorithms benefitted from the extra .6GHZ cpu clock speed.
But that is only half the story...
...while the single CPU box was maxed out at 100% CPU for the duration, leaving the box essentially unusable until it was done, the 16-core CPU box was humming along at 50% CPU usage - while 5 other instances of Vegas were rendering the same 700MB clip using other filters.
SO in essence, while the actual CPU speed will seem to determine how long most process take, the power is just how many similar tasks can be done at the same time
SO if this were a real DVD project, and there were 20 3 minute chapters to render with complex filters and effects, you could get all 20 done in 2 batches of 10 renderings taking 2 x 2h30m for a total of 5 hours rendering time with the "huge box" - while you would be faced with 20 x 2h if you only had the single CPU system.
In that context, 5 hours vs 40 hours rendering time, it it easy to see how such a work-horse server can pay it's way.
Some images to illustrate the tests.
1280 x 1024 Server Desktop
1600 x 1200 Workstation Desktop
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04-01-2004, 05:31 AM
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I can't find words....
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