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Old 02-11-2004, 12:18 AM   #16
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ok.. found it..

". Diesel engines are quality controlled while gasoline engines are quantity controlled. This means a diesel engine runs with an unrestricted airflow and only the injected fuel volume controls the power setting. Diesel engines run lean their whole life without any negative influence.
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http://info.thielert.com/centurion/m...rchive&wpid=20

So yes.

"A diesel has no spark plugs. It has a very high compression ratio--about twice that of a gasoline engine. So the compression stroke builds up tremendous heat and pressure. A readily combustible fuel is injected and the heat of compression instantly ignites it. Unlike a gasoline engine with a throttle plate to regulate airflow, the diesel is unthrottled. It draws in all the air it can, all the time, without wasting energy pulling air past a partly closed throttle. Performance is determined (within combustion limits) by the amount of fuel injected, so the diesel can produce a great deal of torque at low rpm. Step on the accelerator and a variable turbocharger adds still more air, the injectors spray more fuel, and the diesel develops tree-stump-pulling torque before the tach hits two grand. A gasoline engine needs an air-fuel mixture of about 15:1. The diesel can run on mixtures as lean as 100:1."
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...es/print.phtml

Thats as close is im gonna get for links. As I said, diesels are not my fortay. Beyond my economic studies and random automotive tech I don't see them often in the US.
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:44 AM   #17
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Um, i always thought it was purely the rate at which the fuel is injected, and the quantity which is that determined the 'throttle' effect in a diesel engine. I dont know of many variable geometry turbo'd diesels that have bin in production for more than a couple of years, whereas the diesel engine has been around centuaries!
They have no throttle butterfly to restrict the flow, as has been said, and as you assumed deth i think they run lean up to where peak power is created. The peak RPM is determined by a rev limiter on the fuel injection pump is it not?
How'd the test go?
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:51 AM   #18
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its was pretty good...ended up not being tested on teh diesel engine. the way it worked was that we did three labs, dielse engine, air compressor(fricking huge machine probably about 20'x20'x15'), and Parsons steam engine. then on the test day they make us write up the lab for one of them with a few surprise questions. its kinda evil, but it saves u from writing individual reports.

btw i still have ICE, gas turbine, HVAC, steam generator labs to go. i'm actually pretty happy with this course, its quite involvong i'll try to get some pic up of teh equiptment, its all pretty cool.
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Old 02-11-2004, 01:47 PM   #19
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'throttle' effect in a diesel engine. I dont know of many variable geometry turbo'd diesels that have bin in production for more than a couple of years, whereas the diesel engine has been around centuaries!
I realize. That particular article was discussing a special type of diesel setup. I posted it to demonstrate the amount of disel idea as a relation to rpm. The variable turbo idea is actually a turboed diesel engine.
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Old 02-11-2004, 09:33 PM   #20
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fair enuff mate. I just felt it was a tad misleading.
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