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Old 06-28-2006, 06:44 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by blah
The Interior looks good.
I like it too.
Fantastic I must say
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Old 06-28-2006, 06:45 PM   #17
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We'll see how good this thing is against the new RDX which from what I've seen is much nicer of a vehicle especially inside.
RDX is just a CR-V with a turbo and a lot of weight. I doubt the RDX will even be as good as the MDX.

And the new Mazda CX-7 is almost identical to the new RDX. Almost the exact same HP, Torque, and curbweight numbers. It also will have a 4 cyl turbo.

I kind of hate it when car makers all come out virtually identical cars all at the same time.
Umm..that's called competition and platform sharing isn't something new in the car biz
Yes I know that. But Honda does not share any platforms with Mazda/Ford and never has.

Honda does have connections with GM and that’s why the Saturn VUE has the Odyssey/MDX V6 engine in it. And why the Ridgeline is basically a Chevy pickup with a Honda engine.

I just find it strange that the CX-7 is THAT close to the new RDX. I mean they are virtually identical in every way.
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Old 06-28-2006, 06:49 PM   #18
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Is there any sort of a off road community for the X series? I tried searching for "BMW X3(5) offroad mods" and all I got was reviews. I then went to a X series forum and all everyone would seem to talk about is stereo mods, new wheels or how nice of a ride their X series is to work.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:01 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Global Hemisphere
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We'll see how good this thing is against the new RDX which from what I've seen is much nicer of a vehicle especially inside.
RDX is just a CR-V with a turbo and a lot of weight. I doubt the RDX will even be as good as the MDX.

And the new Mazda CX-7 is almost identical to the new RDX. Almost the exact same HP, Torque, and curbweight numbers. It also will have a 4 cyl turbo.

I kind of hate it when car makers all come out virtually identical cars all at the same time.
It will not be same in reliability for sure

Umm..that's called competition and platform sharing isn't something new in the car biz
Yes I know that. But Honda does not share any platforms with Mazda/Ford and never has.

Honda does have connections with GM and that’s why the Saturn VUE has the Odyssey/MDX V6 engine in it. And why the Ridgeline is basically a Chevy pickup with a Honda engine.

I just find it strange that the CX-7 is THAT close to the new RDX. I mean they are virtually identical in every way.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:20 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
It will not be same in reliability for sure Wink
Well I have had several Honda's and Mazda's and both are VERY reliable. I have an 11 year old Mazda beater with 110,000 mile and the thing still runs great and has never had any major problems. Honda might be a little bit better but not as much as most people think.

If there is more than 1k difference between the two cars (and since the RDX is comming out under the Acura badge and not the Honda badge you know there will be!!) I would go with the Mazda all the way.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:26 PM   #21
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well the funny thing is that the RDX is NOTHING like the CRV it has an all new platform it is built off of. the new CRV will be based off of the RDX. the RDX uses SH-awd, and has the newest version of Acura Link Navigation which is widely known as the best Navigation system on the OEM market with working traffic and construction info in real time. The interior uses mainly parts from the RL and that's it the rest is all new. The RDX is going to be a much nicer vehicle than the Mazda (which I have checked out BTW and it is super bland).

And the new K23A1 is an all new engine with a proprietary Variable Turbo system. The block is a 10mm shortened version of the K24 with significant reinforcement on something like 85% of it. The block is also opened up for better cooling around the sylinders. The Head is redesigned for opitmal flow and Cooling and the Turbo with top mount intercooler is a variable size unit that hits full boost at an astonishingly low 2500rpm. engine swap anyone?

I'll do a write up on it later.

Oh and look for prices on the RDX to be around $32K USD slightly less than the BMW...
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:29 PM   #22
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just as ugly as before =/
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:04 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
well the funny thing is that the RDX is NOTHING like the CRV it has an all new platform it is built off of. the new CRV will be based off of the RDX. the RDX uses SH-awd, and has the newest version of Acura Link Navigation which is widely known as the best Navigation system on the OEM market with working traffic and construction info in real time. The interior uses mainly parts from the RL and that's it the rest is all new. The RDX is going to be a much nicer vehicle than the Mazda (which I have checked out BTW and it is super bland).

And the new K23A1 is an all new engine with a proprietary Variable Turbo system. The block is a 10mm shortened version of the K24 with significant reinforcement on something like 85% of it. The block is also opened up for better cooling around the sylinders. The Head is redesigned for opitmal flow and Cooling and the Turbo with top mount intercooler is a variable size unit that hits full boost at an astonishingly low 2500rpm. engine swap anyone?

I'll do a write up on it later.

Oh and look for prices on the RDX to be around $32K USD slightly less than the BMW...
I don't know about the US price....but Canadiandriver predicted it will be starting @ 46k CAD. That's a bit steep considering X3 2.5 is starting around the same price.
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:09 PM   #24
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I hate the X3. They look just as bad with the painted bumper BMW fucked up on the pricing too. They put it way too close to the X5, and it's just not worth it.
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:37 PM   #25
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BMW fucked up on the pricing too. They put it way too close to the X5, and it's just not worth it.
Have to agree...
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:39 PM   #26
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The extra aerokit bits make the front and the rear waaaay too busy. Doesn't look good.
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:14 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
well the funny thing is that the RDX is NOTHING like the CRV it has an all new platform it is built off of. the new CRV will be based off of the RDX. the RDX uses SH-awd, and has the newest version of Acura Link Navigation which is widely known as the best Navigation system on the OEM market with working traffic and construction info in real time. The interior uses mainly parts from the RL and that's it the rest is all new. The RDX is going to be a much nicer vehicle than the Mazda (which I have checked out BTW and it is super bland).

And the new K23A1 is an all new engine with a proprietary Variable Turbo system. The block is a 10mm shortened version of the K24 with significant reinforcement on something like 85% of it. The block is also opened up for better cooling around the sylinders. The Head is redesigned for opitmal flow and Cooling and the Turbo with top mount intercooler is a variable size unit that hits full boost at an astonishingly low 2500rpm. engine swap anyone?

I'll do a write up on it later.

Oh and look for prices on the RDX to be around $32K USD slightly less than the BMW...
Im gonna have to disagree with acura having the best Navi. By FAR lexus is the best from what i have road tested. The Acura system seems sluggish at times. The Lexus system is my favorite.
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:12 AM   #28
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That's... ugly.

X3

LR's upcoming Freelander (mid spec) or a Disco 3 (diesel) is far and away the best deal for this size of SUV. At least the Disco 3 seats 7, and both the new Freelander and the Disco 3 have the option of being able to go off-road.
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:58 AM   #29
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it looks better than the first one, but still
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Old 06-29-2006, 01:44 AM   #30
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This SUV is for the american market, IT will never ever see Off-road. It will only see soccer pratices and bake sales. While if you want a real Off-Roader in america you cant go wrong with a Jeep. The Previous generation Grand Cherokee comes to mind. Mine was a beast!
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