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SPEEDCORE · 07-28-2005, 07:01 AM

The new owner was given another car luckly. The person who was driving states he was cut off and had nowhere to go. Witnesses say he was doing 145mph hahaha.

franck bullitt · 07-28-2005, 07:12 AM

WTF

:fist:
I can't believe my eyes :x another Carrera GT out of the road or the track

I think Porsche should give a few driving lessons to the news and future of this car

ZfrkS62 · 07-28-2005, 09:41 PM

that is one fired tech

911GT1 · 07-28-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by |Nuno|

"Him" was a technician who took the car out for a Pre-Delivery Inspection...

I can't imagine how pissed the owner must be.

Do you think porsche will replace it with a new one? They, better because no-one wants to pay 300k for a "crashed" car. Even if they replace all the damaged parts i still dont want that car (if I'm the one who's paying for it of course).

ZfrkS62 · 07-28-2005, 10:08 PM

they wouldn't even disclose that it was damaged. As long as it is in the dealer's possesion, they don't have to disclose anything. They'd sell it as if it was new.

RC45 · 07-28-2005, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

they wouldn't even disclose that it was damaged. As long as it is in the dealer's possesion, they don't have to disclose anything. They'd sell it as if it was new.

Not quite true - to knowingly sell a damaged/abused vehicle s new would be undefendable in court.

BTW - (no refleciton on the tech here at JW

) but it is a fact that all these muthafuckers abuse hipo cars brought in when ever they get a chance.

I even busted the dealer who was servicing my car - and they simply ignored/denied anything happened.

I took pix of the cars when I dropped it off.. when we went to pick it up, they hadn't even bothered to clean the rubber on the rear fender panels from the burnouts they did.

Oh well - if it was "the" tech it shows even Porsche has zero pride in service.

BTW - why the hell would the car need to be driven as part of the predelivery inspection anyway?

ZfrkS62 · 07-28-2005, 10:31 PM

BTW - why the hell would the car need to be driven as part of the predelivery inspection anyway?

Because if something got left loose during assembley, or the alignment wasn't set up properly, its better it comes out for the tech on the test drive than the customer after delivery.

I had a steering angle sensor on an X3 take a vacation on the PDI test drive when i first started working at the dealer. without the Steering angle sensor, you lose your stability control, and your abs

Had that happened to the customer, who knows what would have happened.

3 weeks before i graduated BMW there were about 200 Z4's that got shipped with suspected loose lugnuts due to a mis-calibration at the factory. The Vehicle Distribution Center checked the torgue before they shipped to the dealers, but we still have to check them when they get in.

RC45 · 07-28-2005, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

BTW - why the hell would the car need to be driven as part of the predelivery inspection anyway?

Because if something got left loose during assembley, or the alignment wasn't set up properly, its better it comes out for the tech on the test drive than the customer after delivery.

Hhmm. I have to disagree 1000000000%.

Every one I know that has taken delivery of an ordered new vehicle has been at the dealer to take delivery ofthe car - and each has given strict instruction for the dealer to do nothing excpet check the fluids and put in gas.

They are the first to drive the car.

There is ZERO need for QA by a dealer and for them to "preprep and test" a new car.

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

I had a steering angle sensor on an X3 take a vacation on the PDI test drive when i first started working at the dealer. without the Steering angle sensor, you lose your stability control, and your abs

Had that happened to the customer, who knows what would have happened.

Too fucking bad - again, the dealer has NO NEED to drive the new car.

Originally Posted by ZfrkS62

3 weeks before i graduated BMW there were about 200 Z4's that got shipped with suspected loose lugnuts due to a mis-calibration at the factory. The Vehicle Distribution Center checked the torgue before they shipped to the dealers, but we still have to check them when they get in.

Bull - no need. I can tell you of a cople folks that have turned down new car deals and gone to other dealers because they didn't honour "don't drive" requests.

You just want to beat the shit ouf the new car

ZfrkS62 · 07-28-2005, 11:03 PM

what the fuck ever asshole. It's a fucking requirement on the pdi checklist. I hope the next Z06 you but has a fucked up synchro and locks up the trans when it comes apart :fist: and all because the dealer didn't do a final QC check when the car was delivered.

Yak all you want in the political forum RC, but do NOT tell me what is needed and not needed to do my job :fist:

911GT1 · 07-28-2005, 11:11 PM

I agree they need predelivery inspection... on a mass produced cars. But on a handbuilt CGT? a loose nut, misaligned wheels, improper fitted panels? what the hell am i paying 300k for? I disagree, a predelivery test on cars like this are not supposed to be allowed.

ZfrkS62 · 07-28-2005, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by 911GT1

I agree they need predelivery inspection... on a mass produced cars. But on a handbuilt CGT? a loose nut, misaligned wheels, improper fitted panels? what the hell am i paying 300k for? I disagree, a predelivery test on cars like this are not supposed to be allowed.

Handbuilt has more room for error than robot built.

Robots are programed and calibrated to hit every nut and bolt in a sequence and torque it accordingly. They are constantly calibrated.

Handbuilt using hand tools provides the chance that a bolt gets over looked, a torque wrench gets knocked out of calibration etc.

How dangerous do you think it would be if a wheel bearing got misaligned failed on the freeway as the customer was starting to enjoy his well spent 300K? Talk about damaging a comapny's reputation.

I'm not saying the tech was justified in hauling ass and acting like a retard, and i'm not saying the car needs to be taken on a road trip. But it does need to be checked out throughly prior to delivery. I wouldn't want to buy an F430 and find out a shock mount wasn't installed correctly and have it fail on me 5 miles down the road. That's something that should have been caught prior to me taking delivery of the car.

I'm sure that you would be livid if something like that happened to you.

I don't give a flying fuck if you like the idea that the dealership is making sure your car is perfect or not. I don't care if you think it is an unnecassary step. I don't care what manufacturer i work for, i will continue taking new cars for a PDI road test around the block. Don't like it? stop driving :fist:

Chaos in 1983! · 07-29-2005, 12:01 AM

LOL...poor dude, thank god he didn't hit one of the palm trees...

oscargarza88 · 07-29-2005, 12:01 AM

wow this is gonna get ugly...
yet i agree with ZfrkS62
whatever the tech could do to the car in the test drive i would probably do too so if something fails its his fault, so i agree a test drive is the safest way to go...
and it doesnt hurt ur car so i dont know why it would b a bad thing

ZfrkS62 · 07-29-2005, 12:09 AM

oscar- in the case at hand, it did hurt the car, but that was purely the techs fault.

in reality, pdi drives are done in low traffic areas and the freeway is avoided. what this dumbass was doing i don't know. It would be nice to get some more info on it but i'm not sure if the poster will be back anytime soon

911GT1 · 07-29-2005, 12:10 AM

A valid argument I must say...